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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:08 am 

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There IS difference! Loud "S" sound makes hole (volume drop) in first sample more then in second!
I've listened to that clip possibly 50 times, and if there is a difference, I couldn't tell you for sure that there was.

Are you saying that you can hear the difference, or that you see the difference on a spectrum analysis or other software that is monitoring levels?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:26 am 

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So, Hans, despite the potential of sniffing glue, I was exactly correct about what happened.

I did see high CPU usage when I said that I did. I was not hallucinating. :mrgreen:

Some (or possibly all) Flash content seems to drive up the CPU percentage, but only with Firefox. I tested with FF 11 Beta 4 (or is this 5?), and Internet Explorer 8. IE8 yielded a slight increase in CPU viewed in Task Manager, but only like from 38-43% to 40-50%. Same track and same Flash content in Firefox drove the CPU percentage up to 60-70. The increase is listed in the winamp.exe process, so the presumption of ST was justified at first glance.

Not your issue, I'm sure, but something to be aware of.

I'll continue looking into it. Maybe see if there is a known issue for the current beta, and if perhaps there are any fixes that have landed in Aurora or Nightly. I'll also see if it is something that is specific to certain Flash content and not others.

That said, if you can squeeze any more performance out, it would still be appreciated... ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:41 am 
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Are you saying that you can hear the difference, or that you see the difference on a spectrum analysis or other software that is monitoring levels?
I'll admit, i am watching scope all the time. Sometimes, my ears refuse to hear something that i don't want to hear.

So, you work for Mozilla? :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:34 pm 

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Are you saying that you can hear the difference, or that you see the difference on a spectrum analysis or other software that is monitoring levels?
I'll admit, i am watching scope all the time. Sometimes, my ears refuse to hear something that i don't want to hear.
I have nothing but respect for you, but in my opinion, that is a too technical approach to the situation. I don't think it considers subtle changes in harmonic frequencies and the ability for the ear to pick up on that and compensate. Further, even if the technical analysis was correct, it has been presented as only relevant to a specific subset of users. While that subset may indeed be large and may be providing a lot of revenue, I think there needs to be clarification in the future of all the conditions in producing the issue reported. There is no need in subjecting non-broadcast users to an issue that is exclusive to broadcast users, unless the correction cannot be done by any other means.
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So, you work for Mozilla? :)
I work for nobody. I haven't in almost 3 years. I was fired from a job for something stupid I did. I felt ashamed for a while, then my Dad got sick and I dealt with that, then he died and I dealt with that, and since then I've tried to become a gainfully employed and productive member of society, but I cannot get anyone to respond to me when I apply. I've had recruiters proactively call based on my resume in their database, but then when they ask about what happened with my last job and I tell them, even if it is phrased as a positive learning experience, I never hear from them again.

As for Mozilla, when I said I will check and see if there have been any bug reports or code landings in Aurora or Nightly, I meant I would view the forum at this link: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:56 am 
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BETA 021:
- Further reduced holes
- Fixed a bug with "Forcibly remove DC offset" setting in Loudness (it didn't work properly if there were things that introduced a DC offset due to clipping).

Stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 22-021.exe
DSP (Winamp): http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 22-021.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 22-021.dll
VST no SSE2: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 22-021.dll
Command line: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 22-021.exe


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:19 am 
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On my system if "Allowed High Distortions" is setting a value, when I remove the checkbox HQ (on the next "if preemphasized") for the first time, the slider is set to a minimum but the value is not updated. Then if you press the slider is updated as 20%.
This happens to another? :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:00 pm 

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BETA 021:
- Further reduced holes
and it just gets better...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:09 pm 

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If you are a professional fm radio admin which broadcasts from 2 mountains check this new topic : ( i hope hvz answers positive!)

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4124&p=15109#p15109


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:17 pm 

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BETA 021:
- Further reduced holes
Yes its working better now. I tried it again with the same settings at the same song. the result is very good. a little hole is still appearing but this doesnt matter.

here can you hear the new result:

sample2.ogg


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Would You please explain to me what holes do You measure/expect with this sample? Or do you mind if You post the original song ?
With my song and settings I mean holes ( when highs suppress the bass, or when loud highs came out and the bass is lowered and this is very noticeable ) this must not appear because it`s from the protection .Thats why I post exactly this song because in it we have in same time louder bass and louder highs. I mean exactly in the same time ( one kick / kick with highs / one kick / kick with highs.... etc.) You probably hear this


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