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| Author: | hvz [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
The behavior is the same - I still need to check what the correct numbers are but I think the new ones closer match the actual behavior than the old ones. For clarity: Your settings LOOK different but they don't SOUND different, for Digital mode. |
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| Author: | DJ-DOGGY [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
It`s not look the same , because if i reselect the Digital - numbers are 4 times less and the Multiband is acting just like they are exactly those(4 times less). Just to say - i`m using miltipliers at x0.50 . But the original values are 50ms for Attack and 1000ms for Release . Now they load as 12.5 Attack and 400 for Release. And again : If close and reopen ST , load the preset (even after total reset) , it shows wrong speeds ( I`m talking about i close in Digital mode and then load preset in Digital mode). They still wrong . They are saved 4 times bigger, but they load as 4 times less and MB acting as 4 times less . P.S: Release is not 4 times less . Original was 1000ms , now is 400ms , which is 2.5 times less ?! Something is not like it should be. |
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| Author: | \_/ [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
@DJ-DOGGY Hans changed the *internal speeds* because they were wrong, so if you want it to work the same as before also the *displayed speeds* must be changed. Example: 1000ms for attack time in *this* version is the same as 4000ms in *older* versions. Therefore if you want this version to behave as older versions you need to set it to 250ms *now*. |
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| Author: | DJ-DOGGY [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
WOW , that`s a "wrong"  I was not see anywhere to mention that this is a bug. ok, will see what to correct. But i cannot agree that what you adjust , it stays for both MB`s . Analog must have it`s own settings , so we can compare it directly. Now if i adjust settings for Analog and switch in Digital - settings moves to the Digital. In this way you cannot do any comparision. Becaus every time you must adjust for the other MB ... 
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| Author: | cornyman [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:11 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA | ||
When testing with the preset attached with the newest Beta in MB Analog Mode with Flat Tops everything's OK, but when Flat Tops OFF, stuttering starts in less than 10 sec. Maybe something's wrong with the preset, but I don't know.
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| Author: | hvz [ Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
Quote: When testing with the preset attached with the newest Beta in MB Analog Mode with Flat Tops everything's OK, but when Flat Tops OFF, stuttering starts in less than 10 sec. Maybe something's wrong with the preset, but I don't know.
I haven't checked it yet but it's most likely a CPU load issue, the CPU load has gone up a lot in the last few beta's. Today I've spent some time on optimizing it and the CPU load of the Analog multiband compressor is now roughly equal to that of the Digital one, but it doesn't use multi-threading so it can still much more easily cause problems. I will continue to optimize it tomorrow.
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| Author: | hvz [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
BETA 761-021 Windows 32 bit: Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 61-021.exe Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 61-021.exe VST 32bit: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 61-021.dll CHANGES: - Optimized CPU load. Warning: ITU mode is broken in multicore mode. CPU load now strongly depends on the settings, for the settings that I posted earlier it's now less than half that of Digital mode! On my system it went down (single core mode, CPU load on that core) from 12.3% to 2.5%! (Again, depending on settings). Digital uses 9.1%. To convert existing Digital compressor settings to Analog: - Set Compressor Mode to Analog OLD CHANGES: - Merged more parameters (Peak vs RMS setting) with old ("digital") compressor. - Slower Release speed in Analog compared to Digital - Removed Shape Enable settings. - Fixed Knee in Analog mode - Fixed Aggressiveness slider behavior for Analog (!), made it behave the same as Digital mode (acts only on release speeds). - Merged more parameters (Attack Time, Release Time) with old ("digital") compressor. Adjusted numbers in Digital compressor to match the (correctly calculated) behavior in Analog mode. - Merged parameters (threshold, knee, ratio, feedback, channel separation, band mix) with old ("digital") compressor, I noticed that I was switching back and forth all the time to copy settings, so this seems easier. Threshold is now also displayed in dB's. Made Multiband version of the new compressor! Choose 'Analog' mode to switch to the new one. See attached preset for an example! - Made new Traditional Peak mode which behaves more like normal Peak. - Added Lookahead, removes huge spikes at start of attack for fast attack times and reduces IMD. - Fixed Ratio behavior - Fixed 'Density Drive' slider in Analog mode - Fixed no audio with certain combinations of filters - Fixed a filtering issue in the Digital compressor (!) when using Density Drive > 1.00 - Added lowpass filter to control signal to smooth out bad effects and remove distortion - Added ITU-1770 mode to reduce pumping and improve level control - Added Channel separation - Rewrote all code - Fixed Ratio - Channels are not processed separately (wasn't the case before, and that was a bug) - Fixed attenuation display - Attack and Release times must be set to half the numbers of the previous beta's. Oil change speed must be doubled. - Restored old Shape behavior from version 009 - Replaced 'Nonlinear Release' by 'Exponential Release', which works better and only needs 1 parameter. Use this to go up FASTER if you're down DEEPER. - Added Ratio - Added Feedback mode - Fixed out-of-control behavior for certain extreme settings - Fixed some more weird behavior things if the difference between Attack and Release is REALLY huge (behavior was bumpy and caused clicking sounds). - Known issue: both Shape On settings must be enabled. I will probably remove them in the next build anyway so I'm not going to fix it. Fixed a lot of bugs, will type the details here later. Oil Temperature is now in % and didn't work properly before. PLEASE LOAD THE DEFAULT SETTINGS for the new compressor or it will sound horrible. Changed Attack Time, Release Time, Attack Speed Threshold, Release Speed Threshold to understandable values. Made 1.0 the 'standard' behavior for Shape. - Added smoothing to oil temperature behavior for both attack and release. Added Oil temperature behavior which was missing from my automatic (hydraulic) door model. Will explain below... - Added another Peak mode slider in "New Singleband". The old one (from yesterday) works mainly on release, but in some cases the volume didn't go down fast enough on a loud sound. The new one works mainly on attack (higher value makes attack continue AFTER a peak. - Changed Peak mode behavior in "New Singleband". - New Singleband: Split Speed into Attack and Release Speed - New Singleband: Made Attack and Release Speed Threshold relative to Speed - so you don't need to adjust it to change the shape. - Added new Dequantizer filter to increase the bit depth of recordings. TO DO COMPRESSOR: - OPTIMIZE TO DO: Fix MB frequency band shift (10%, since 7.51 or 7.60) - Appears to be gone but I don't remember fixing it (!) Fix RDS time issue! viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5941&p=28209#p28209 Add RDS control via VST typedef VstIntPtr (VSTCALLBACK *AEffectDispatcherProc) (AEffect* effect, VstInt32 opcode, VstInt32 index, VstIntPtr value, void* ptr, float opt); for Bernd N Clipper issues Leif / Wolf Stahl (probably the same thing) |
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| Author: | Clipper [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
Tried to download Windows Stand Alone. Error: File Does Not Exist C. |
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| Author: | hvz [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
Whoops! Files are there now! |
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| Author: | near05 [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 7.61 BETA |
the performance improve is really great! but i am hearing a difference in the sound since beta 19. if bass is appearing in pulse form, and there are other highs, then i am getting a pumping effect on the mids. that was not in beta 18. i am using the preset you posted to the forum on the end of march. i also tried the conversion of the unveil preset. this pumping is a very noticeable effect, if you are having jazz with a loud bass and other instruments, or in dance songs which very aggressive bass and pads. |
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