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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:11 pm 

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I should have been more clearly, sorry. Even with one band you will lose bass and treble for high attenuation because humans perceice them worse at low volume. That's why some AGCs (and compressors) boost them only if necessary. And my first thought was that Power Bass was made exactly to solve this problem but now I know better.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:42 pm 
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AGC, some call it hand-on-the-pot should do just that. Well in some smart way. I still belive that job of bass band or band for highs in AGC is job for MB.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:39 pm 
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AGC, some call it hand-on-the-pot should do just that. Well in some smart way. I still belive that job of bass band or band for highs in AGC is job for MB.
Well i disagree on that :mrgreen: !!

I think BASS FREQ must have AGC to obtain bass consistency, and yes in holland we like bass, and yes in some content the bass has a absurd boost, but in holland this seems the way to go and personaly i like it to.
Thats why i have disabeled the AGC side chain and use 3 band AGC, power bass is verry usefull in this config.

Don't get me wrong, your latest presets sounding very good, so keep up the good work but above is just my personal opinion.

Anyway as told many times before, processing is a personal thing, glad were not all the same.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:17 pm 

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I still belive that job of bass band or band for highs in AGC is job for MB.
I believe that, too.
However there should be something like an loudness compensation. The MB cannot do that because it cannot boost sounds and it doesn't know by how much (e.g. the material itself could be lacking bass or treble; it's an artistic choice if you want to change that).
The (singleband) AGC knows how much attenuation it has applied. Then it could do something like this:
If e.g. 15dB or more attenuation is applied, boost the bass by, say 60% of the difference between this upper 15dB threshold and the current attenuation with a maximum of 10dB and your back in the business. Same with treble so voices doesn't sound muffled what I found even more important.
Sure the MB hides the AGC problem to some extent but I think everything should be solved at the right place.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:28 am 

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Hello Hans,
Do you think it maybe a good idea to add a control for for a kind of "detection target"?
In the moment it is maily possible to adjust the effect strength via the Max bass amplification control.
But if you set it too low the source-to-source consistency (when you see bass) is less.
With this new control you could determine the target bass level of this section to clear the question "How much bass must be existent in the original not to add additional bass?"
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Robert


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:46 am 
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Hello Hans,
Do you think it maybe a good idea to add a control for for a kind of "detection target"?
In the moment it is maily possible to adjust the effect strength via the Max bass amplification control.
But if you set it too low the source-to-source consistency (when you see bass) is less.
With this new control you could determine the target bass level of this section to clear the question "How much bass must be existent in the original not to add additional bass?"
Regards,
Robert
The next version will have an offset, it won't respond below that offset. Which means that new tracks with a lot of bass won't be changed anymore, and tracks that have little bass will be increased upto that level. It will also have protection against sudden bass increases.

The next version also has a similar filter for higher. Building it now :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:13 am 
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The next version also has a similar filter for higher. Building it now :)
Great feature! Waiting ... :mrgreen:

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