Stereo Tool

Wasn't sure where to post this!

We've been given an Omnia 9 for testing for our station for a month, as we're slowly thinking of replacing our old Orban fleet for FM processing soon.
Omnia 9 has quite a legendary reputation in Poland, since the most popular station (RMF FM) uses those extensively for their sound, and it is widely considered "fantastic".

Now - in my own view - it's not really that amazing, but rather the rest of the stations in the country don't put any work into crafting their own unique sound and hence the striking difference (although that's a subject for another discussion).

Anyhow, since I personally don't have that much experience with hardware units, I wanted to ask you guys for opinions, and to share experiences from your places.

For context: I'm not the decision maker, but since I have the most experience building presets via ST and set up our processing for web with it, I've been invited to the circle to talk about change.

- I was pretty surprised to see Omnia 9 is a basically a closed product. I'm assuming Lief's philosophy is "not to mangle inside"? The only thing you can touch is "quick adjust" on what is "pre-built" in terms of presets.
- That doesn't give much room for preset building, which is something I was looking forward to... Especially since I have Omnia SST installed on my PC, and it is very ST-like.
- After some research, it looks like the product for deeper configuration is Omnia 11. Quite a striking difference in design philosophy within one company.

So the question is: is it only my view that a double multiband configuration is a must for mordern loudness and clarity? I've grown so accustomed to it through ST!

Don't get me wrong, the presets I'm browsing through on the 9 sound great, and I'm slowly exploring what this beast can do.

But I'm simply wondering if going forward with such configuration for another decade or two is a good idea. Demands change, and being able to dig deep inside was always one of the most valuable things for me personally, when it comes to such expenses.

On a completely side note: is there any way to get a demo unit for testing of STExtreme to Poland? Who should we get in touch with to talk details?

Sorry I don't have much other input, but I was under the impression Omnia9 had different levels of config exposure similar to ST's old Operation Modes. BreakawayOne is limited to Basic, but I believe one can change the one in Omnia9 to something like Advanced or Expert to expose what you expect to have available.

Oh! For that query, you can message Hans or whoever does that specific business by using the Contact form on the Thimeo website. https://www.thimeo.com/contact/

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NB: I'm not a professional, just a hobbyist, and as such I could be wrong. If so, please, somebody correct me.

You might be quite right. I couldn't find it anywhere when browsing the menus but it seems Expert mode is accessed through the preset ones. Such a weird placement. Will take a deeper look.

And thanks for the link, was about to write there anyway, so I just got my confirmation!

O.9 HW is fully adjustable, idk where you saw it is not. Whenever you load preset in O.9, go to "about preset" and set "expert mode".
Also as you know O.9 is PC.. with windows. So if you skilled enough you can get O.9S or PTN (i forgot exact lettering) and make PC as you need to get prety same result. So you have choice there.
In other hand, ST is fully capable to make that loudness you want, no need for ST extreme, ..if everything properly adjusted and calibrated.
Loudness mostly depends on coomposite clipper, and O.9 and ST share same one. Well, O.9 uses one from ST, only thing is that is just not updated often. Also O.9 uses its own bass clipper wich is strange to me, since now it has 2 bass clippers, one old and one from ST. something is not so well integrated there i think, i digress...
Ofc you can 'pump' more loudness from MB but now you are entering just that area "pumping/compressed" sound wich everyone trying to stay away from.

Double multiband: That's only thing in ST. No other processor uses 2 MB compressors. Well, you have O.11 or or O.6, but that is specifically 5+6 bands where 6bands are strictly limiters, and those 5 bands are more AGC then compressors. and that is perfectly fine.
So no, it is actually very bad to use 2 full multibands where both do AGC/compressison at full-range. Best you can do in ST with 2 multibands is MB1 slow/agc-like compression and MB2 faster/low-range compression. But crossovers need to be carefully adjusted same as number of bands.. ranges.. etc, and in that case "adaptive" and dynamic speeds are out of question!

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First of all make sure you are on the Right Place
There are many sections in the Omnia so you should be in the Station section
Then check the At the right of the same Tab on the Right "Processing" is selected

NOw under that the first tab should be the Load Preset.. LOad Preset As your CHoice
Then move and look for the "About Preset" This is preset right in the same line of the load preset tab


NOw under the Tab of the Preset the Description will be there for the preset that you have selected
IF you Look on the
ADJUSTMENT LEVEL: Basic <<< By Defalt

Click here you will get 3 option window and you will find the Expert MODE here in the interface will also Change after THis

Point to be noted this will not take effect until you save the preset with the different name you have to come to this same place if you change the preset.. Once Preset is saved in the Export Mode it will take a Effect in that mode only.. If you are running in the Station then you use this same preset then this step you have to repeat until you save the prest again in the same machine or the system you are using.


I am not a expert in this but i know how it works

I wanted to say something that as you are working in the posland radio station and you explain everything

You are completely Right that Omina have limited Space of working your own creativity gets over when you STOP USING Thimeo Stereo Tool

I can tell you with my experience compare Both for this but in the End in my eyes Thimeo Stereo Tool wins the game

IF you have the ART of understanding and crafting the Music then i am sure you can do this on the Thiemo

ONE very important thing to point out OMINA is always have the Background processing going on so you will never get a Clear Sound or the Clean sound even if you Press the BYPASS and you will not love OMNIA lol... But if you do this with Thiemo the Chanel gets as real as you are listening to the Actuly original song without any process on it..

Its company decisions but the creativity gets over if you use the Helping tools lol

Well if i can help then let me know or anything i would love to help

Rest for my Thimeo Stereo Tool is the best its my who can make it work and i have done it atlest for me rest i am not a guy who listen to the presets i am a person who love to listen and make my own preset with my knowledge preset can help if you in a hurry to setup something but if you really looking for something to create then Thimeo