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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:45 pm 
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Yep, every band has the same compressor design.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:09 pm 
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We try to give every parameter a unit.
Speaking of things without units, I have a semi-silly request about the Bypass functionality in the JSON interface. So "237" is the bypass parameter, and a value of 0 or 1 is accepted to turn it off or on. Would it be possible/reasonable to add a value of -1 to toggle its current state? I'm having trouble writing a script that achieves this, and it would just be so much easier to send it "-1" and have it toggle its internal value between 0 and 1.

If it causes possible issues with others' scripts, would it be easy or reasonable to make this a new parameter?


Secondly, would it be/is it possible to send the JSON a "+0.01" or "-0.01" string to have it adjust a parameter by a relative value rather than sending it an absolute integer? I'm interested in scripting keys for the Simple Clipper drive (as a basic multiplier for the Advanced Clipper) to allow more headroom when you turn down the loudness. Currently one has to disable the Advanced Clipper to access the (simple) Clipper Drive multiplier in the GUI.

Or if that's crazy, would it be reasonable/too ugly to add a - and + button to the GUI, for the sake of adding those parameters, that I can then trigger with JSON (preferably sending it a value by which to adjust -- either in units of dB or percent)? As it currently is, one has to detect a value, then calculate a new value when you add or subtract anything, then send that to the JSON interface. Am I being lazy instead of learning to script? :|


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:00 am 
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We try to give every parameter a unit.
Speaking of things without units, I have a semi-silly request about the Bypass functionality in the JSON interface. So "237" is the bypass parameter, and a value of 0 or 1 is accepted to turn it off or on. Would it be possible/reasonable to add a value of -1 to toggle its current state? I'm having trouble writing a script that achieves this, and it would just be so much easier to send it "-1" and have it toggle its internal value between 0 and 1.

If it causes possible issues with others' scripts, would it be easy or reasonable to make this a new parameter?


Secondly, would it be/is it possible to send the JSON a "+0.01" or "-0.01" string to have it adjust a parameter by a relative value rather than sending it an absolute integer? I'm interested in scripting keys for the Simple Clipper drive (as a basic multiplier for the Advanced Clipper) to allow more headroom when you turn down the loudness. Currently one has to disable the Advanced Clipper to access the (simple) Clipper Drive multiplier in the GUI.

Or if that's crazy, would it be reasonable/too ugly to add a - and + button to the GUI, for the sake of adding those parameters, that I can then trigger with JSON (preferably sending it a value by which to adjust -- either in units of dB or percent)? As it currently is, one has to detect a value, then calculate a new value when you add or subtract anything, then send that to the JSON interface. Am I being lazy instead of learning to script? :|
I can help you in the discord. I'm being kind of inactive because I am asleep whenever you are talking about it and I forget to say anything


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:42 am 

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Stereo Tool does not process high frequencies; even when the bypass mode is active, it filters out high frequencies. The latest version of Perfect Declipper seems quite outdated. I wish the current version of Stereo Tool had an option for processing high frequencies.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:02 pm 
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I can help you in the discord.
Thanks so much! This turned out to be much simpler on this side of the software than I was imagining. I feel dumb for asking for the devs to do this stuff.

I have to come back to the topic of the Simple Clipper Drive visibility while the Advanced Clipper is enabled. The Simple Clipper Drive (multiplier for loudness) should not only have a greater range (from 10-150 increased to 0-200%) but should be adjustable from within the Advanced Clipper module page without having to disable it first.

I realize most people don't use Stereo Tool for personal listening, but this goes with the premise of hyper-usability for even basic users of the new GUI. If folks could easily adjust the loudness as a multiplier without needing to learn how to script, I think more would stick with it and eventually buy or upgrade a license. Maybe at some point, a short or simple tutorial and example script could be hosted on the Thimeo site.

TheDaChicken was able to help me in the Discord to figure out how to assign the Windows volume controls to the simple clipper drive. So when I adjust the Windows master volume, it reflects in the Simple Clipper Drive, which modulates the loudness of the Advanced Clipper. Much thanks to them! However we're still figuring it out and getting it nailed down.

I'll keep this stuff in its own thread until I find out more.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:09 am 
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Speaking of things without units...
I can help you in the discord.
Thanks so much! This turned out to be much simpler on this side of the software than I was imagining. I feel dumb for asking for the devs to do this stuff.

I have to come back to the topic of the Simple Clipper Drive visibility while the Advanced Clipper is enabled. The Simple Clipper Drive (multiplier for loudness) should not only have a greater range (from 10-150 increased to 0-200%) but should be adjustable from within the Advanced Clipper module page without having to disable it first.

I realize most people don't use Stereo Tool for personal listening, but this goes with the premise of hyper-usability for even basic users of the new GUI. If folks could easily adjust the loudness as a multiplier without needing to learn how to script, I think more would stick with it and eventually buy or upgrade a license. Maybe at some point, a short or simple tutorial and example script could be hosted on the Thimeo site.

TheDaChicken was able to help me in the Discord to figure out how to assign the Windows volume controls to the simple clipper drive. So when I adjust the Windows master volume, it reflects in the Simple Clipper Drive, which modulates the loudness of the Advanced Clipper. Much thanks to them! However we're still figuring it out and getting it nailed down.

I'll keep this stuff in its own thread until I find out more.
Hi I don't really get it. Adjusting the simple clipper or adjusting the advanced clipper has the same effect. All the simple clipper does in this case is multiply the advanced clipper setting with the simple clipper setting.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:24 pm 
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I have to come back to the topic of the Simple Clipper Drive visibility while the Advanced Clipper is enabled. The Simple Clipper Drive (multiplier for loudness) should not only have a greater range (from 10-150 increased to 0-200%) but should be adjustable from within the Advanced Clipper module page without having to disable it first.
Hi I don't really get it. Adjusting the simple clipper or adjusting the advanced clipper has the same effect. All the simple clipper does in this case is multiply the advanced clipper setting with the simple clipper setting.
Because achieving mute is impossible if it only goes down to 10%, and 150 isn't enough of a boost (I see people asking for a range of 200% which seems reasonable for a loudness driver).

Why do I choose to use it with the Advanced Clipper if I'm licensed? The percentile scale multiplier type number thingy (not all nouns are coming out of my head today yet) makes it an easy 1:1 map (or 1:2 if it goes from 0-200) for the absolute Windows master/device volume control to the loudness drive. Advanced clipper page has 2 sliders that neither go down to 0%

Why not use output volume? Well, I want to increase headroom as I make it less loud. I eventually plan on getting a midi controller with knobs or sliders to map to features.

Please let me know if my thought processes are poor or if this is nonsense and there are better ways. :oops:

here's what i told tom in the Discord regarding the value of a simple 0-2x loudness scalar that doesn't rely on understanding how decibels double in loudness every 6.
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i eventually foresee the masses of twitch adopting something like Stereo Tool via OBS (once they nail down their VST/sizing issues) to handle their sound for broadcast. it's the wild west out there in terms of loudness and quality, and people buy expensive shit cause some popular streamer uses it, regardless of if it's really optimal. i understand if it would be weird to have regular joes using a high quality broadcast processing software not knowing what a decibel is and how it scales with loudness, but that's the potential of this world and the low barrier to entry of the basic license.
I want to be able to coach a streamer who don't know dookie about sound to turn down the loudness by 50%. and they say "-6db sounds like a high number to adjust by". or they do half of the bar in OBS which would do something like -30db. Perhaps I need to find a youtube that explains it all concisely and present that before they use the software?

Okay, what if there was a Quick Adjust for 'pros', and a Quick Adjust for 'streamers'? I realize this goes in the face of not having multiple operation modes though... Even if it's just another expansion in the main Quick Adjust sections. I'm thinking of some of the things they might do would be interjecting over their game with speech using the Bimp. I finally checked that out more fully (I hate hearing my voice) and it solves the issue OBS has of lacking a master track for compressing a game under a voice. I had some questions about Bimp I sent in a DM that I might need to follow up on now.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:32 pm 
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Hi,

Just noticed on the: Beta 10.02-089 release that the lines
on the Azimuth graph are a really prominent white now.

Would it be possible to have them toned down
a bit to a mid grey as per the other graphs on the
next release?

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I'm using the Linux cmd 64 bit version, and the web interface still seems the same to me after updating to beta089?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:48 am 
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Just noticed on the: Beta 10.02-089 release that the lines
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I'm using the Linux cmd 64 bit version, and the web interface still seems the same to me after updating to beta089?
We're working on a rewrite of some things and on making the preset loading/saving work the same as in the native GUI. Coming soon.


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