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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:10 am 
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In the current version are all the analog or digital compressors in multiband 1 and multiband 2 identical? In other words, is the same compressor section design used in each band?
MB1 can be either depending on that setting, MB2 is always "analog". "Analog" is the name of a newer compressor design that supersedes the "digital" compressor and MB2 was only added after analog had already been introduced if I'm not mistaken (which is why it's never gotten a "digital" mode).
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Do you mean new compressor architecture? Or do you mean new adjustment controls in the existing two styles (analog and digital), in addition to the GUI changes?
New architecture!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:50 pm 

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Thank you Mathijsco, however I did not ask the question you answered.

Rephrasing it-

In MB1 and MB2 analog mode, are the adjustments that are in numerical units (instead of dB, time or ratio) consistent in each band compressor? Numerical as in 1 to 1,000 or more, instead of dB or time, etc.

That is- Does a numerical adjustment mean the function is interactive with other adjustments, and therefore is shown as a number?

I am asking for an admittedly selfish reason. I don't want to listen and have to adjust every compressor if I know the adjustment settings I want.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:15 pm 

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Offering GUI and architecture suggestions that would help my workflow and maybe others. I mentioned them before.

Does Stereo Tool support multichannel sound cards? Is there a way the monitor function could be sent to a different channel on an audio card, to act as a listen rather than a program audio interrupt?

Would you consider a visual way of adjusting compressor parameters? For example, a compressor could have an attack graph screen that shows gain on the Y-axis and time on the X-axis. Horizontal reference lines could show peak and RMS level of input level. Non-linear functions over time would then be shown visually, and adjustment of several interactive controls would be more efficient.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:16 pm 
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bug: the buttons in Advanced Clipper that are seemingly supposed to take you to the Streaming Signal Settings (HD?) or the FM/AM don't do anything. I was looking for the Center Bass adjustment and it took me a minute to realize there was a new Broadcasting section on the left bar for it.

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Offering GUI and architecture suggestions that would help my workflow and maybe others. I mentioned them before.
I don't know how to say this without coming off rude. Just know that's not my intent.

Many of the questions you're asking are either explained elsewhere (for example the Help section of the Thimeo website or on these forums -- use google since the forum search isn't good https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A ... eotool.com ) or can be answered by trying out the beta itself.

Otherwise, they're simply in the wrong section of the forum. This thread is not for suggestions on the overall functionality of Stereo Tool, as much as it's about identifying beta bugs and finding "missing" or overlooked features regarding the new GUI. At least until this version comes out. The extra off-topic posts make it harder for Hans and Tom and the team to catalog more important things like bugs and QOL ideas.

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Would you consider a visual way of adjusting compressor parameters? For example, a compressor could have an attack graph screen that shows gain on the Y-axis and time on the X-axis. Horizontal reference lines could show peak and RMS level of input level. Non-linear functions over time would then be shown visually, and adjustment of several interactive controls would be more efficient.
For example, this request is a heavier request about the GUI and new compressor architecture that would be better suited for the Wish List subforum viewforum.php?f=16 (though I agree visual graphs help to understand). Most of your other questions are better suited for the Other Questions subforum viewforum.php?f=26 . You'll be best received in those sections, especially if you group your thoughts clearly and try things out using the latest betas first.

I've admittedly broken this unwritten rule a few times in this very thread, and haven't gotten responses to all questions presumably because of that fact. In fact, I'm sorta doing it right now by clarifying this all.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:36 am 

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MrKlorox-

I apologize to everyone for posting in the incorrect thread and not making helpful suggestions on the topic of the thread.
My comments were not intended to be disrespectful or annoying to anyone, and if they were, I apologize.

All the best to everyone. I am happy I purchased Stereo Tool and I enjoy adjusting it. Thank you.

Greg


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:28 am 
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BETA089 is available in the opening post.


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In MB1 and MB2 analog mode, are the adjustments that are in numerical units (instead of dB, time or ratio) consistent in each band compressor? Numerical as in 1 to 1,000 or more, instead of dB or time, etc.
Which ones? We try to give every parameter a unit.

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Does Stereo Tool support multichannel sound cards? Is there a way the monitor function could be sent to a different channel on an audio card, to act as a listen rather than a program audio interrupt?
This one is on our todo list.
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bug: the buttons in Advanced Clipper that are seemingly supposed to take you to the Streaming Signal Settings (HD?) or the FM/AM don't do anything.
True. They are text fields now, we still have to implement "hyperlinks". The alternative was to keep the settings in the clipper page (which would be confusing since they are not stored with the other clipper settings) or not indicate anything at all.
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Out of curiosity, and tell me if this is a stupid question, but will the compressors work on peak, RMS, or LUFS-M? Or all of the above?
We just added support for peak last Friday, so peak and RMS now. No direct support for LUFS at this moment but you can use the side chain to have the K-weighting that's used for LUFS.
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The Linux web interface version also doesn't have options to set the web interface options. So if I wanna edit the whitelist I edit the config file.
For this (and for other things such as changing the port number) we need to have some safety measures, to protect against locking yourself out. The way it works now, just editing the whitelist via the web interface and accidentally leaving the text box with an unfinished IP address filled in would block web interface access. Which is why we didn't make this setting available in the web interface.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:05 am 

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" Which ones? We try to give every parameter a unit."

Yes, you do give every parameter a unit. I will try to ask the question in a better way-

Is each multiband compressor module the same?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:20 am 

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In beta 89 the shown preset name at the top seems to be stuck at 'Dutch Chocolate Moose', though the correct preset seems to be applied.
Also the current preset isn't shown as 'Recent' at all, but just gray at 'Custom'.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:06 am 
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In beta 89 the shown preset name at the top seems to be stuck at 'Dutch Chocolate Moose', though the correct preset seems to be applied.
Also the current preset isn't shown as 'Recent' at all, but just gray at 'Custom'.
Oops! I fixed something in the preset loading (loading old preset could cause incorrect values to be active), but that turns out to have had more effects than I thought. Tom just fixed it, next build (tonight) should be ok again.

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Is each multiband compressor module the same?
Yes, if MB1 is set to Analog mode. See Mathijsco's answer.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:14 pm 

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Thank you all for being so patient with me. My question is:

In MB1 analog mode or MB2, is each band compressor the same basic dynamics module?
For example, in a MB1 analog 3-band, is each band the same compressor design? Only reason I am asking is to save time and minimize uncertainty.

I know it is a dumb question.


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