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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:40 pm 
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For the much yes , not that much but it is noticeable .
So must be corrected .
I say that beta25 is enough of options for bas, highs , loudness... ect
So why don`t You correct that version without add any options and that`s it :)
I really mean that no need other options , these in beta25 are good and do their job correct exept that highs-bass that i explain before , but i`m right right? ... this is from HARD LIMIT ?

And sorry but in Latest version this problem is there ...........SEE
And highs-bass thing is more noticeable with default settings !!
As you can see the filter of 15Khz is not that strong in BBP , but in ST is very strong (no start and finish frequency)
I`m a friend of StereoTool so thatswhy i want to be the best because this BBP you see at first picture is very hard CPU load program , but ST is doing the same with MUCH MUCH lower CPU load
BBP : 70% CPU
ST: 25-29% CPU now i use VST ( foobar with DSP host to winamp ans ST is less than 25% - 17-20% )
Athlon II X2 240e (2.8 GHz) ............... WOW isn`t it ?


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:02 pm 

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Just to be certain that we're talking about the same versions, and to rule out that you are using another (for example the -micha version) build
Hi HvZ, I'm using Stereotool for two years, and test also the new beta's. And for the first time, I like the multiband very much with the Michi95's settings. It's increase the presence of the sound.

Would you continue to use these settings?


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:21 pm 
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All ok here:
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Beta51 - Loudness 4.00x comp.limiter to 106.5 ... // rate - 192kHz

What Sample rate you use ? - Same happens here if I use 44.1 or 48kHz


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:29 pm 
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I use Virtual cable with 192KHz sample rate to bring the MPX from foobar to MPX Tool
Look at the picture there is Sample rate...192000
Hope things isn`t like this but from where would came such a thing .... I see you haven`t this problem but.......

What is the level in your ST from FM panel ... x1.00 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:08 pm 
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yes, postamp is at 1.00, VAC to mpxtool.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:12 pm 
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No .. No man
no postamp but Output Volume from "FM transmitter" panel "Enable direct sound card access" volume . Is this x1.00 too ?


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:18 pm 
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Depend on needs.

And you already know tha with VAC in mpxtool that slider is at 0.708 ;) (if input at mpxtool is 0.0dB)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:53 pm 
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No , slider at Fm panel must be at x1.00 for 0.0db level of music or single frequency to keep the ratio of music/pilot tone. Otherwise you have to set the level of pilot tone manually .Thats the thue. But Hans set it to 9% default and if in this panel level is at x1.00 (not 0.708) everything is right in MPXTool. Level of pilot is as you set in ST. x1.00 is like coefficient . Post amp and this level in "FM transmitter" panel must be at x1.00. Levels below x1.00 are for test purposes only like ...........If there are peaks in MPX signal , because at x1.00 you don`t see the peaks above 100% modulation.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:07 am 
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whatever .. you have error with ST vs MpxTool and cause is not ST.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:46 am 
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This is probably not very interesting for most people here, but I got an email from someone who was using my other plugin Tape Restore Live! to filter out FM stereo hiss when relaying an FM station (so FM station -> tuner -> transmitter). So by request, I've added the FM stereo hiss filter from Tape Restore Live! to Stereo Tool. It's in the Noise Gate window.

This filter ONLY works for FM Stereo hiss which disappears when you press the MONO button on a receiver, not for normal hiss.

Winamp DSP plugin: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 510-52.exe
Stand alone version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-52.exe
VST version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-52.dll
VST version (No SSE2): http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-52.dll
Command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-52.exe
Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-52 (not available)
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-52 (not available)


Edit: There's a bug when switching to 512 sample delay mode; not all hiss is removed anymore.

To test this filter use this file:
http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... ection.mp3
- Set 'History' higher to let the filter respond slower to stereo hiss when it appears. (If there is no stereo hiss, this will better ensure that the filter does nothing if there are some 'false positives' in the FM stereo hiss detection).
- Smooth / Rough: Smooth means that the stereo hiss is constant and hiss-like (white noise). If you get a stereo hiss with squeeking tones in it, set it a bit (not too much!) closer to Rough.
- Reduce: Set higher to reduce more. If you set it higher you'll probably have less remaining artifacts.... But it could 'eat up' more of the actual sound.

I think this filter could be made much better, for now I just included the filter as I wrote it a few years ago for Tape Restore Live! But I think it's probably not too difficult to remove much of the remaining ringing-like sounds etc.


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