Stereo Tool

That's odd, I've lowered the highs settings quite a lot (a few dB), and if I listen to recent music the difference between processed and not processed is very small.

I'll have to check the difference between the old and new version. Which preset(s?) did you check?

FM Soft Europe...
Not only difference new and old default settings .. but overall with other popular processors.

Someone like me (though I am not into FM). viewtopic.php?p=6432#p6432
A 12 band multiband would be a potent argument for a Stereo Tool V6 release (so not tomorrow, but something to add in the future).
Plus additional bands (12 too) for the noise gate (this would be a very good multiband expander functionality).
12 bands (especially) in multiband compressor/limiter would open doors to a new quality level of somehow intelligent presets for real enhancement especially for old music.
With 12 bands it would be possible to create a good sounding adaptive EQ.
As good as the original music (plus competive loudness) is not enough.
It should sound better (adaptive spectral balanced) than the original.

I don't know if Hans has other (maybe more important than Stereo Tool development) software projects in the future ?
But if Stereo Tool keeps in focus, I have some (weird) ideas for the future.

I've compared 2 versions (BETA_007 vs. BETA_013), in general (averaging over a number of tracks):
- Upto 1500 Hz the bass in BETA_013 is 0.3 dB louder
- At 5000 Hz - 12000 Hz, the highs in BETA_013 are 1 to 1.2 dB softer
- Around 14000 Hz the difference is slightly smaller, but BETA_013 still has around 0.6 dB softer highs.

So the highs are about 1-1.5 dB softer (relative to the bass) with the new presets.

Or is the problem that you hear that the 'very high' highs are a bit louder than the moderate highs?

Do you also hear more highs with the updated settings?


I'm really surprised about this, if you check the Multiband settings the highs are really reduced a lot compared to the previous preset. On top of that, the new AGC also keeps the bass at a higher level than before.

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I am just think that StereoTool in general have less highs then any other processor (fm). And now is even lower.
Anyway, anyone who use StereoTool can set options as as they want.
Like me but..
I am making FM preset that have much more Highs then current ST default, like Omnia, Orban or other processors. I am using Singleband Comressor limiter or new AGC2 and i have problem. Both Singleband compressor/limiter and AGC2 'hate' loud Highs! Loud 'S' is killer for them. Interesting is that is not case in non-FM mode.
Now what?
I Just want to use AGC2 as leveler for/from multiband. I tryed to set multiband clipper lower for highs .. but that does not help.

Ok, now I'm confused... First you say that there's too much highs, then you say that it's less than in any other processor. ??????

I do know that the current settings should be very close to the sound of modern CD's. Which _should_ be good. (Although maybe not for FM?)

Second quote is what i mean

Ok, that explains things... So basically I should broadcast _louder_ highs than what's originally on a CD? That's odd... Especially since highs are always a bit problematic for FM.

Do you also think that the non-FM presets lack highs? (Others are very welcome to respond as well...)
Because I think so far most people have actually complained about TOO MUCH high, not too little...

Well..
i will record some tracks thru ST (fm mode) and make comparation. I will upload some too.
I am more worried for AGC2 and singleband compressor/limiter

Under normal circumstances, you shouldn't need/use those... Unless you want a REALLY high output level, and avoid distortion.