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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:17 pm 
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New Bass in your face have bass ringing too. DIFF mode shows this.
And the most important - CPU load increases by nearly 13% only for it. From 10.7 to 23 . Not optimized ?
There is some effect that's currently only present in DIFF mode - I'll fix that.

Big CPU load effect confirmed - I'll have to check what's going on, it's not doing that much...
Check both bands of the Bass in your face, because they both causes big CPU load.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:29 pm 
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BETA774-019

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 74-019.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 74-019.exe
Windows VST 32 bit: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 74-019.dll

Raspberry Pi 2:
http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... ETA774-008 (008!)

CHANGES:
- Bass In Your Face: Filter out pre-ringing.
- Bass In Your Face: Remove weird sounds in DIFF mode.

OLD CHANGES:
- Moved Bass In Your Face to after Multibands.
- Made Bass In Your Face slope to the right configurable.
- Added 2nd Bass In Your Face band, you can now boost both mid-bass and deep bass

- Fix Thimeo engine: Winamp version crashed if input is 192 kHz
- Fix Thimeo engine busy - some bugs left to fix. Winamp version also asserts in multiple places a while (FIXED). Winamp version is ok except at start - when starting in Thimeo mode it can hang (low latencies) or sound bad (higher latencies) (FIXED). At least one cause is that waiting for readReachesWriteEvent times out (FIXED).
- Reduced bass rumbling in Bass In Your Face, made frequency configurable.
Added initial version of Bass In Your Face
- Half-way busy with improving the Dequantizer - Done
- DFT pre-allocate memory!
- Fix Thimeo engine busy - some bugs left to fix - still more issues to be fixed. OS_WAITEVENT(hq_continue) might be placed incorrectly (not same for chain and chain_hq) or might not be needed at all. OS_WAITEVENT(hqThreadDescription[number].process_ready_event) to be checked. Why does the CPU meter stay close to 100%? That must be a bug. Move Performance meters to see where this happens. Audio is ok though in both plug-in and stand alone. Still broken but at least kinda usable now. Problems: Optimized code doesn't run (stereo_tool.cpp, warning). Sometimes shift in timing. Hangup when switching to different latency, then switching from Thimeo to old framework. EXACT PROBLEMS: Hangup when switching Thimeo OFF in Latency 256. Sometimes hangups when switching at latencies 2048 and 4096. Sometimes jump-in-time at sound card restart after switching between Thimeo on/off (potentially only after changing size first?). Problem seems to be fixed now (at least on 1 latency setting) except for 1-second WAIT loop sometimes (FIXED), and optimized code isn't used (FIXED). Winamp version also asserts after a while. All versions hang on too high CPU load hangs (FIXED).
- ACR Stereo weird effect at latency 128, test track 'Drank & Drugs". - Was highpass filter, removed (for now!)
- Auto-reduce GUI speed when CPU load is too high.
- Enter license key: Add a 'Get from clipboard' button
- "Auto" synchronization mode - Stereo Tool attempts to detect if synchronization is needed by comparing sound card names. Might cause problems...
- Added Raspberry Pi 2 version (requires jackd2, uses NEON support so only works on Pi 2).
- New feature: Spectral Balance Compensation
- Bug: Winamp plug-in crash: set 'plug-in host latency' to a high value FIXED, was a threading/timing issue
- Bug: Console version: Error: -k: Key <xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyx> is invalid. FIXED but I don't understand why!
- Bug: GUI: If I set the quality slider to 50 or lower with Ignore High Frequencies set lower that 19kHz the FM output meter goes blank FIXED (I hope)
- Bug: Plus a new one...If I set the stokemask use area slider to zero multiple parts of the processing chain throw exceptions. --> I don't see this one but value 0 makes no sense anyway, I've changed the slider so it cannot go below 50% anymore.
- Bug: FM doesn't get turned off anymore when selecting a non-FM preset, this means that pre-emphasis stays enabled among others.
- Password login shows what you type - should show ******
- Bug: UECP PS/RT texts are sent through the Stereo Tool RDS parser, shouldn't be. -> Probably fixed, but I cannot test it (no UECP encoder here).
- Stokkemask Strictness was set to 2 by default, must be 3.
- Bug: 64 bit stand alone Windows crash, exception 0xc0000005, address 0x000000000000339b (WINMMBASE.dll) - might be a Windows 10 or driver problem! (see below, might be a Windows 10 bug or a driver issue) -> Confirmed, it cleaned up after some Windows updates.

TO BE DONE:
- Bass In Your Face: Reduce CPU load, move allocations to .h file.
- Bass In Your Face: Maybe rename to Warm Bass?
- Bass In Your Face: Determine GUI mode for each setting.
- Bass In Your Face: Reduce rumbling further. Gate? Or only look at audio below 200 Hz to filter out voices?
- Thimeo framework: Check why normal framework now asserts on startup/latency change.
- Fix version with Thimeo engine latency in Winamp (50% higher on normal mode, 75 in Thimeo mode - before replacing readReached event by a switch it was 50% and 50%, I should be able to restore that - caused by looking at the wrong [][] values). Also, the Chain() thread should wait for the calculations to finish.
- Show warning when sample rate is too low for stereo/rds
- Set separate clipping level for normal output.
- Dequantizer: Make the effect configurable for the lib build. And make it more configurable (final filter vs. first filter).
- Server: Protect against memory reallocation fails when zooming out of waveform display (one of the few places where I allocate memory after starting).
- Add AF method B via UECP!
- Nu is er de optie bij UECP “Use internal settings on connection drop”, dit lijkt goed te werken. Echter als de verbinding weer is hersteld, komen niet direct de gegevens ingesteld via UECP terug. Pas alle settings overnieuw worden gestuurd, zijn deze weer aanwezig in de 9SG. Zou dit niet gebufferd kunnen worden en zodra de connectie terug is, dit worden weer gegeven?
- Make it possible to output lower FM output level in plugin when outputting L/R deemphasized.
- Check Delayed Bass Clipping: Relative sensitivity. Doesn't work according to Bojcha.
- Bug: Hans I think that you forgot the unrecoverable NAN error when adjusting the ND frequancies. I got exactly the same behavior in both of the multibands.
- Bug: Stereo Tool together with JACK Audio, for whatever reason as soon as I activate ASIO in 7.7x, it just quits out and doesnt open up anymore. Note that this even happens when the JACK server isnt even started up. Oh and I use the 64bit version because the 32bit version cant connect to JACK at all, it just says it failed, in the 64bit version at least it used to work fine. (I'm guessing that this is a Jack bug though - will test it here).
- Add a big warning when sound card buffers get too full or too empty about enabling Synchronization.

LATER:
- Bug: Mac: After closing About box, main GUI remains unusable. And it's too small. Suggested fix: Disable for now, make a better About box later. Should be part of the planned Mac native GUI design.
- Bug: Mac: If you click the Help Button it will close Reaper. Not sure if this is supposed to happen. Also the Help-URL is not existing. Also part of the planned Mac native GUI design.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:08 pm 
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Huh..
Why now BIYF after MB? :)
That bass knows to generate large peeks wich need to by controled by compressor or limiter. Thing is now that it goes directly to clipper. Will not count singleband comp/limiter at all since will not do job anyway if bass peek is greater then rest of sound.
Atleast between two Multibands (wich might be best solution) or before MB1.


- SC PEQ for singleband limiter(s) still not included
- AGC Gate not After AGC (if button is OFF) but it's just after Pre-Amp
- 2 decimals for limiter speed
- ND input detection! (?)
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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:14 pm 

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For now just technical report, not fully tested it

windows 10 standalone
beta 18 BIYF works
beta 19 BIYF st crashes
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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:17 pm 
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Stereo Tool Beta019 Crasht (weird sound) when select Difference in BIYF

Edit: Stereo Tool Dsp
Windows 7


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:02 pm 
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Rationale for putting it after MB2:
- Amount of bass added is always roughly the same, except when there already is a lot of deep bass. It seems to make it more constant. So you can always reduce the first 2 MB bands a bit to compensate.
- More importantly, it sometimes generates rumble which would be amplified by putting it before the MB's.

Crash:
- That's this thing again that doesn't show up on newer Intel chips (i3/5/7 3000/4000 series), but it does on older ones. I think I've fixed it, new build is running.

I'm off to the Oktoberfest, will post it afterwards.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:26 pm 
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New CPU doesn`t always mean the good one . Looks like the new Intel ones are "blind" :)
I told you many times to make some test AMD machine.Believe me you will be more open to the errors or bugs. How is possible Intel not to see this "error" ? I just don`t get it.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:00 pm 
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New CPU doesn`t always mean the good one . Looks like the new Intel ones are "blind" :)
I told you many times to make some test AMD machine.Believe me you will be more open to the errors or bugs. How is possible Intel not to see this "error" ? I just don`t get it.
It has a new much faster chipset that doesn't consider this to be an error. I can *make* it see it, but then it will run at a 10% slower speed on these CPU's.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:01 pm 
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BETA774-020

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 74-020.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 74-020.exe
Windows VST 32 bit: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 74-020.dll

Raspberry Pi 2:
http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... ETA774-008 (008!)

CHANGES:
- I *think* that this version fixes the crash that several people reported.

OLD CHANGES:
- Bass In Your Face: Filter out pre-ringing.
- Bass In Your Face: Remove weird sounds in DIFF mode.
- Moved Bass In Your Face to after Multibands.
- Made Bass In Your Face slope to the right configurable.
- Added 2nd Bass In Your Face band, you can now boost both mid-bass and deep bass

- Fix Thimeo engine: Winamp version crashed if input is 192 kHz
- Fix Thimeo engine busy - some bugs left to fix. Winamp version also asserts in multiple places a while (FIXED). Winamp version is ok except at start - when starting in Thimeo mode it can hang (low latencies) or sound bad (higher latencies) (FIXED). At least one cause is that waiting for readReachesWriteEvent times out (FIXED).
- Reduced bass rumbling in Bass In Your Face, made frequency configurable.
Added initial version of Bass In Your Face
- Half-way busy with improving the Dequantizer - Done
- DFT pre-allocate memory!
- Fix Thimeo engine busy - some bugs left to fix - still more issues to be fixed. OS_WAITEVENT(hq_continue) might be placed incorrectly (not same for chain and chain_hq) or might not be needed at all. OS_WAITEVENT(hqThreadDescription[number].process_ready_event) to be checked. Why does the CPU meter stay close to 100%? That must be a bug. Move Performance meters to see where this happens. Audio is ok though in both plug-in and stand alone. Still broken but at least kinda usable now. Problems: Optimized code doesn't run (stereo_tool.cpp, warning). Sometimes shift in timing. Hangup when switching to different latency, then switching from Thimeo to old framework. EXACT PROBLEMS: Hangup when switching Thimeo OFF in Latency 256. Sometimes hangups when switching at latencies 2048 and 4096. Sometimes jump-in-time at sound card restart after switching between Thimeo on/off (potentially only after changing size first?). Problem seems to be fixed now (at least on 1 latency setting) except for 1-second WAIT loop sometimes (FIXED), and optimized code isn't used (FIXED). Winamp version also asserts after a while. All versions hang on too high CPU load hangs (FIXED).
- ACR Stereo weird effect at latency 128, test track 'Drank & Drugs". - Was highpass filter, removed (for now!)
- Auto-reduce GUI speed when CPU load is too high.
- Enter license key: Add a 'Get from clipboard' button
- "Auto" synchronization mode - Stereo Tool attempts to detect if synchronization is needed by comparing sound card names. Might cause problems...
- Added Raspberry Pi 2 version (requires jackd2, uses NEON support so only works on Pi 2).
- New feature: Spectral Balance Compensation
- Bug: Winamp plug-in crash: set 'plug-in host latency' to a high value FIXED, was a threading/timing issue
- Bug: Console version: Error: -k: Key <xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyx> is invalid. FIXED but I don't understand why!
- Bug: GUI: If I set the quality slider to 50 or lower with Ignore High Frequencies set lower that 19kHz the FM output meter goes blank FIXED (I hope)
- Bug: Plus a new one...If I set the stokemask use area slider to zero multiple parts of the processing chain throw exceptions. --> I don't see this one but value 0 makes no sense anyway, I've changed the slider so it cannot go below 50% anymore.
- Bug: FM doesn't get turned off anymore when selecting a non-FM preset, this means that pre-emphasis stays enabled among others.
- Password login shows what you type - should show ******
- Bug: UECP PS/RT texts are sent through the Stereo Tool RDS parser, shouldn't be. -> Probably fixed, but I cannot test it (no UECP encoder here).
- Stokkemask Strictness was set to 2 by default, must be 3.
- Bug: 64 bit stand alone Windows crash, exception 0xc0000005, address 0x000000000000339b (WINMMBASE.dll) - might be a Windows 10 or driver problem! (see below, might be a Windows 10 bug or a driver issue) -> Confirmed, it cleaned up after some Windows updates.

TO BE DONE:
- Bass In Your Face: Reduce CPU load, move allocations to .h file.
- Bass In Your Face: Maybe rename to Warm Bass?
- Bass In Your Face: Determine GUI mode for each setting.
- Bass In Your Face: Reduce rumbling further. Gate? Or only look at audio below 200 Hz to filter out voices?
- Thimeo framework: Check why normal framework now asserts on startup/latency change.
- Fix version with Thimeo engine latency in Winamp (50% higher on normal mode, 75 in Thimeo mode - before replacing readReached event by a switch it was 50% and 50%, I should be able to restore that - caused by looking at the wrong [][] values). Also, the Chain() thread should wait for the calculations to finish.
- Show warning when sample rate is too low for stereo/rds
- Set separate clipping level for normal output.
- Dequantizer: Make the effect configurable for the lib build. And make it more configurable (final filter vs. first filter).
- Server: Protect against memory reallocation fails when zooming out of waveform display (one of the few places where I allocate memory after starting).
- Add AF method B via UECP!
- Nu is er de optie bij UECP “Use internal settings on connection drop”, dit lijkt goed te werken. Echter als de verbinding weer is hersteld, komen niet direct de gegevens ingesteld via UECP terug. Pas alle settings overnieuw worden gestuurd, zijn deze weer aanwezig in de 9SG. Zou dit niet gebufferd kunnen worden en zodra de connectie terug is, dit worden weer gegeven?
- Make it possible to output lower FM output level in plugin when outputting L/R deemphasized.
- Check Delayed Bass Clipping: Relative sensitivity. Doesn't work according to Bojcha.
- Bug: Hans I think that you forgot the unrecoverable NAN error when adjusting the ND frequancies. I got exactly the same behavior in both of the multibands.
- Bug: Stereo Tool together with JACK Audio, for whatever reason as soon as I activate ASIO in 7.7x, it just quits out and doesnt open up anymore. Note that this even happens when the JACK server isnt even started up. Oh and I use the 64bit version because the 32bit version cant connect to JACK at all, it just says it failed, in the 64bit version at least it used to work fine. (I'm guessing that this is a Jack bug though - will test it here).
- Add a big warning when sound card buffers get too full or too empty about enabling Synchronization.

LATER:
- Bug: Mac: After closing About box, main GUI remains unusable. And it's too small. Suggested fix: Disable for now, make a better About box later. Should be part of the planned Mac native GUI design.
- Bug: Mac: If you click the Help Button it will close Reaper. Not sure if this is supposed to happen. Also the Help-URL is not existing. Also part of the planned Mac native GUI design.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.73
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:09 am 
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Same problem as Beta019.

I use Beta020 but ST shows Beta019 (look picture)


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