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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:59 am 
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Somewhere along the line, the delay has been reduced. With the current version, I am running the FM Output Buffer Size at .0007 seconds. Not long ago it was around .03 seconds. Using 512 Latency, I can easily listen to myself off the air monitor. It sounds like I'm in a barrel but it doesn't drive me crazy. And this is on a marginal system. That's a nice option to have.
Strange. It should never have needed that much - total latency at 512 was always around 15-17 ms.

By the way, at 1024 the audio quality is a lot better at slightly less than twice the latency (12 ms extra, total around 28).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:00 am 

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Is the Natural Dynamics filter basically an exciter, or something very similar to it? Or is there more to it than that?

In the past year or so, the technique I use for restoring some dynamics to heavily compressed or brickwalled tracks is to use Stereo Tool's Declipper + BBE Harmonic Maximizer in a VST rack. The BBE Harmonic Maximizer (a Nomad Factory filter) is basically an exciter, it has a low end frequency select and level, and a high end frequency select and level.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:06 am 
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It's something completely different. Basically, it increases the level of loud punchy sounds.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:19 am 

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Somewhere along the line, the delay has been reduced. With the current version, I am running the FM Output Buffer Size at .0007 seconds. Not long ago it was around .03 seconds. Using 512 Latency, I can easily listen to myself off the air monitor. It sounds like I'm in a barrel but it doesn't drive me crazy. And this is on a marginal system. That's a nice option to have.
Strange. It should never have needed that much - total latency at 512 was always around 15-17 ms.

By the way, at 1024 the audio quality is a lot better at slightly less than twice the latency (12 ms extra, total around 28).
What is the typical lowest number the FM Sound Card buffer can run? In the past, I've had to keep it somewhere around .030 seconds...sometimes higher. Today I had it down to .005 (it broke up at .004) which has been unheard of until I noticed it today.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:26 am 
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I see something strange nonflat - hump with using flat freq response slider in mb

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Cannot reproduce it here - you're using 4 bands right? Can you send me your settings so I can see if something is wrong? Thanks....
I received the preset - the thin line is ok (peak is exactly at the configured frequency); the strange shape is caused by the big differences in steepness between bands. The thick line should then also be ok.

Yes but I think you understand what is my target, actually is no other way to get it better.
This would require a change band setting like crossover point style with constant steep.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:41 am 
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Windows:
Winamp version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 25-022.exe
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 25-022.exe
Windows VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 25-022.dll


Changes:
- Bob Hawkins built-in preset crashes
- Flat Frequency Response: Built-in presets use default value, should use conversion function.
- MB default frequencies on startup incorrect
- Default settings for ND -> Use latest from Bojcha based on JesseG's
- Fix Limiting display (must show dB's).


Fixed previously:
- Limiter: Fix (check) limiter
- Limiting works MUCH better with no lookahead - seems to use the smoothed signal when using lookahead. Remove that and perform some smoothing in backward direction (probably based on drop speed) to remove crackle.

- Added Release Inertia
- Improved limiter: Flatter frequency response, better behavior at low frequencies, more accurate level measurements, tighter (Bojcha, do you still hear the distortion from the previous beta? If so I can smooth things a bit more)
- Added Traditional Peak detection mode to compressor; this mode should not be used unless you have a lack of CPU power -> Brian, I think with this setting the new multiband compressor will perform about the same as the old one.
- Hangup when pressing Natural Dynamics in bottom display
- ND license incorrect
- AZIMUTH default settings: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4875
- Phase rotator: Change name "As early as possible" (unclear!) and hide in most modes?
- Organize ND settings better
- Fix loading existing presets (Gamma values, "As early as possible" etc.)
- Split ND settings in to GUI modes
- Remove old ND implementation (saves memory and makes STS files smaller) -> 8 MB less memory usage
- Multiband: Improved Flat Frequency Response. Good values seem to be between 0.50 and 0.60 (depending on other settings!)
- Multiband: Added Attack and Release Gamma. See below.
- Phase rotator: Added checkbox to place it at the start of the processing chain (just before Natural Dynamics)

- Multiband/Natural Dynamics: Cleanup small spikes in Flat Frequency Response graph.
- Multiband/Natural Dynamics: Improve flat frequency response further.
- Mac: Default priority value to 46.
- Mac: Menu bar with Close APPLE+Q -> wxEntry exits but rest of software doesn't -> crashes.
- Mac: Cleanup named semaphores on exit
- Mac: RDS binary values
- Multiband/ND: Flat frequency response: value automatic conversion. ((v / .58) ^ .5) * .58
- Decide to which license to link ND -> Now linked to Declipper
- MB Knee does not work -> Yes it does...
- Linux: Test if everything still works. -> Yes, some small fixes were needed. Also removed printing to screen in Jack loop (bad!)
- Compressor: Place Gamma somewhere logical without making the interface too crowded.
- Display ND in bottom section
- ND handle changing number of bands
- Mac: Add auto-generating of .zip file with proper plist.
- Mac: Add icon
- Changed ND default settings (experimental!)

Remaining:
- Add presets
- Mac: VST: Simple workaround: Simple GUI with "Show Stereo Tool window" checkbox. Also has an (unplanned) advantage: Window is resizeable. Might even be a good idea to support this in Windows as well!
- Mac: VST: Why doesn't the new window open in a separate window? Other windows (such as About) do...
- PC: Copy ASIO per-output channel settings to main ASIO screen.
- Remove pre-emphasize output
- Update version number
- Mac: Try bigger block size when sending data to screen (eldoradofm). -> Big difference, will change it. Maybe also for Linux?
- Adjust Generic levels of new presets
- Adjust new FM preset BS412 levels
- Maybe add J-Type as BS412 preset as well
- Wait for last 2 Bojcha presets :)

Later:
- ND artifacts band 1 (JesseG) - is this still an issue with larger drop times? -> Later
- Compressors: Add Reverse Release to improve start of loud highs -> Idea might be good but it doesn't work this easily. Postpone.
- Try to reduce MB/ND volume measurement CPU load. Maybe ignore some bands if there's nearly no signal there etc.
- Multiband/ND: Flat frequency response: Add separate settings for each crossover?)
- MB bands limiting display - Really difficult to fix (without increasing CPU load); it works fine without band coupling, and shows the actual reduction level if band coupling is used. So keeping it like this for now... :(
- Mac: VST: Child window support. Difficult... Maybe later!
- Mac: GUI performance.
- Mac: Cursors not supported. (Keep like that for now).
- AGC behaves bad: Different speeds at different locations.
- ND boosts highs in Dragana S track - should not do that-> later?
- Band coupling separate settings per crossover -> bit problematic, can this be postponed?
- MB Gamma and Inertia default values - but without changing existing presets
- Somehow try to estimate Attack/Release vs. Gamma/Inertia?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:14 pm 
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Still the hang with resampling quality is presented


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:34 pm 
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MAC VST version - some things are not 100% ok yet and the number (642) doesn't make any sense, anyway:
http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 42.vst.zip (64 bit!)

You probably need to have JackOSX installed for this to load (I still need to fix that).


Note: I have put ST in a separate window, because of some issues between the GUI layer that I'm using and the VST interface. It should be usable this way though... Let me know if it works :) (It does here)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:29 pm 

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725-021 : Anyone else having problems with it not going back to the preset currently in use and/or the FM Output sound card needing to be enabled after a reboot?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:40 am 
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Latest MAC builds (all 64 bits!)

VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/stereo_tool.vst.zip (Requires a 64 bit VST host!)
Stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/stereo_tool.zip
Command line: http://www.stereotool.com/download/stereo_tool
You need to have JackOSX installed for the first 2 to load (I still need to fix that).

VST: Note: I have put ST in a separate window, because of some issues between the GUI layer that I'm using and the VST interface. It should be usable this way though... Let me know if it works :) (It does here)


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