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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:16 am 

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DSP version is good.
The beta turned off Bass Boost and Loudness by default, even though the preset I had loaded had them enabled. Might check that behavior. Still checking to see if there are other problems.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:20 am 

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Standalone beta53 uses 100% cpu always!
Ow confirmed... It also hangs too on close and no music seems to get through. --> Solved, building fix.
DSP version is good. Will try to figure out what's wrong - hope it will be related to the hangers/max CPU usage that Brian and DJ_DOGGY reported.
VST hangs too, although CPU usage isn't all that high here.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:51 am 
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DSP version is good.
The beta turned off Bass Boost and Loudness by default, even though the preset I had loaded had them enabled. Might check that behavior. Still checking to see if there are other problems.
O you're right. I added a separate box to enable Loudness but forgot to add backward compatibility. :(
Bass boost is odd though - I didn't change anything there. But I'll check it.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:55 am 
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VST hangs too, although CPU usage isn't all that high here.
Problem is that in some cases I'm writing data to elements that don't exist anymore (for example, FM synchronization data in the stand alone version caused the hanging in that version). Don't know yet what the problem in the VST version is. I guess I should try to add something to find these bugs when compiling instead of when the software is running. But that isn't that easy...


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:10 am 
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Stand alone version that doesn't hang: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 3-053A.exe

Will look into the VST hangup and Loudness (and Bass Boost?) load issue later.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:13 am 

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renamed "Final Limiter" to "Simple clipper" and "Loudness" to "Advanced clipper" (if anyone has a suggestion for a better name let me know).
Hans, did you also set all use of the former "Loudness" as a item for registration?

I get a warning here using my default settings with Loudness on +1.5 dB

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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:32 am 
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The extra processing that you talked about just a couple of days ago when we were talking about the CPU load of "loudness", and you mentioned that AGC, Noise Gate, and MB had extra calculations that may not be needed...and that it was the sum total of everything that was pushing my system over the edge, not exclusively loudness.
Ah, that. I don't expect too much improvement from removing it, and it's too much work for now - however I'll make sure that everything I design from now on will take this into account. And I'm definitely converting Loudness (which is already nearly converted) and Hard Limit soon - because a big customer is requesting a new feature that requires me to change it. Those two happen to be some of the easiest ones to convert.
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As for where locks happen, it's really random, and it has to do with high CPU load. For example, not always, but from time to time, if I click the X to put the GUI to the tray, it will partially tray, meaning that the tray icon is there, but the GUI window remains "up", sort of, displaying normal GUI updates as the track progresses, but you can't actually do anything with the GUI. To get it working again, you have to click the tray icon to "really" bring it back up.
Cannot only be CPU load related, must be a real bug... (Once you click the X, the window updating should stop immediately). I'll try what happens if I run it on 1 core (you have 1 core right?) and check the code.
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Another example is when changing presets while a track is playing. From time to time when I do that, the preset list will just get stuck and I can't click anything, including the stop button in Winamp! That situation does clear up when the track ends, but until the track ends, or you end task on Winamp, there's nothing you can do in ST or in Winamp.
Not always? Does this happen with specific file types? (I'm guessing .wav and .flac files, NOT .mp3 files)
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I've also had an instance where Winamp claimed that the last track played was one of the STS files! That has only happened once, and it was after a high CPU load situation where I ended task on Winamp.
There's no way Windows can ever see an STS file unless you dragged it to or opened it in Winamp yourself. So I'll assume that this is a user error for now...


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:37 am 
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Hans, did you also set all use of the former "Loudness" as a item for registration?

I get a warning here using my default settings with Loudness on +1.5 dB

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Hm yes. The old behavior was actually sort of a "bug". Because at low values in the old interface it was almost impossible to see whether Loudness was enabled or disabled, I didn't detect it in my registration code if the Loudness value was really low. But this did allow people who noticed this (including you apparently) to use Loudness without paying for it. That 'loophole' is now fixed... Sorry :(

I'll send you a PM.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:46 am 
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VST version works fine here; I may have fixed something when I fixed the stand alone version. Will build it again & post it here.


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 Post subject: Re: New things...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:01 am 
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Stand alone version that doesn't hang: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 3-053A.exe
Will look into the VST hangup and Loudness (and Bass Boost?) load issue later.
Loudness (Advanced clipper) is indeed off when i load preset from previous betas where it was enabled.


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