Stereo Tool

Yeah, it's taking quite some time for version 6.20 to be released. Some good news though: I think I'm getting the clipping code under control again. Sound is _slightly_ worse than in BETA079, but also 0.4 dB louder and clipped much tighter, so that makes sense.

I agree that the bass is not WOW impressive. But if you listen to that recording of the actual station I did, I think it sounds great with a great, wide stereo image. But the bass doesn't have to be so powerful to be enjoyable.

Their idea (I think) is to have a wide, flat sound and if the bass where overwhelmingly powerful, it would cover up the rest of the frequency range for those with speakers without bass adjustment. I can listen to them for a long time actually, it is very non-fatiguing.

To each it's own right?

That looks promising. B.t.w. do you make use of some psychoacoustics in your clipping code?

@Hans,

I don't know why I asked this to you over PM lol. I was writing a lot of PMs and I wasn't thinking.

I don't know if anyone else who uses ST feels the way I do but I think the compression power of ST needs to be able to be pushed further.

ST is a broadcast processor as an alternative to Optimod/Omnia. Bojcha said he would do his best to get that sound from my local station's FM broadcast but that Stereo Tool just wasn't able to get that level of compression. (The Hulkshare link to the recording I posted is on page 110 for those who missed it).

I know you are working hard on the clipper right now but I think for those who truly want those extremely compressed sound signatures of many stations using Orban or Omnia products, it should be possible with ST.

Does anyone else agree with me? I know most don't like the sound of my local station but what about those who use ST but don't come to the forums? I can't be the only one who wants that type of sound...Am I?

I'm now finally getting a decent sound out of my clipper again. The difference with BETA079 is actually very small, except for 2 things:
- I need to set the Loudness setting about 12% LOWER to get the same output level as before
- Loud highs seem to have far less impact on the other frequencies (they drop ~ 2 dB less than before).

Some sounds are a bit more grainy than before, on the other hand, some sounds are cleaner than before. Overall I think this new clipper is definitely better.

Currently the CPU usage of this new clipper is insanely high - I'm now building a version for people with fast CPU's, and I'll check what I can do to optimize it later.

I dunno if I should really call it that (actually I just tweak some settings and listen to the result, and check if *I* can hear a difference - the term 'psychoacoustics' kinda implies a more scientific approach with models of human hearing, large groups of testers etc.) - but something like that, yes.


@baires0314: Multiband redesign is planned, the new multiband will have LESS bands which should make it a lot easier to create a flat sound like that.

lucky number 'seven' ?

Clipper is SO slow that it doesn't even run in real time on my i7... So no new beta for now.

Reduce the number of bands in multiband ?
Why ... ?
less bands = less balance in whole bandwidth
less bands = more accuracy for selection of the separate bands bandwidths
these two are enough i think
Don`t follow the BBP . It`s not that accurate and professional like ST .
Besides BBP don`t have that much options/settings like ST . Also have level in 38KHz signal ( not fully cleaned ) + second harmonic at 76 KHz ( look in MPXTool to see ).
So no place to compare .
The idea for 10 bands is very good , don`t f**ked it ?!

I agree with that explanation !
Please hans , if you cannot make the switch from 10 bands to 7 optional ...just don't do it.

ONLY OPTIONAL ( from 10 to 7)
Stereotool is competitive at now becuse of these :
1) declipper ( it will .......soon be released in BBP )
2) extra detailed configuration ( it will never be opened in BBP )
3) 10 bandssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ( BBP will never have 10 bnds)

so , practicaly, stereotool is more competitive becuse of 2) 3) reasons.
don't blow things up