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Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.22)
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Author:  achecz [ Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.22)
Hi all! I wish you all a Happy New Year 2012!
Step into the New Year with better sound! ;-)
Here is my new version of the preset Lucidity FX. I think its sounds much better than build-in version FX4.

Recommended usage for this preset:
- Normal audio listening at headphones or speakers
- Streaming web radio station at high bitrates (192k MP3, 112k ogg)
- Targeted to listening/streaming 80' & 90' rock/pop/dance hits. But also can be used for "repairing" modern clipped songs.

There is short changelog:
- Better handling with differend songs sounds levels (thank's to reworked AGC filter).
- Better bass control (added Bass AGC filter)
- Overall cleaner and airier sound (lowered compression)
- Better dynamics at same RMS level!
(for example PFD Mix test: http://i.imgur.com/rHiT0.png )

So... Enjoy it!
(package contains replace for booth versions - normal (Web radio stations section) and soft (Generic presets section)
Attachment:
Ache - Lucidity FX5_RC.zip [6.85 KiB]
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4th Mar 2012: UPDATE: LUCIDITY FX5.6 version!
The main changes from version 5.0:
- Prepared for SA Stereo Tool 6.22 (beta)
- More dynamics! 99.5% of tested (300) songs achieved at least DR8!
- "Volume bursts" reduced to minimum. (new AGC filtering in ST 6.22 and MB tuning)
- and... eh...because my English is bad, so in short: It just sounds better! :-)

I really recommends this update beacause: Lucidity FX 5.6 (with ST6.22 beta) sounds close to what I (and maybe you) want to hear! :!: :twisted:
Attachment:
File comment: New better version! Ready for ST6.22
Ache - Lucidity FX5.6.zip [7.05 KiB]
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Author:  Bojcha [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Nice sound. What do you think about this preset when you play, for example, 'Foo Fighters - The Pretender'?
Author:  Brian [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Quote:
Nice sound. What do you think about this preset when you play, for example, 'Foo Fighters - The Pretender'?
I guess I am going to assume this is a loaded question, and am responding for myself, not presuming to speak for anyone else...

I think your commentary is about the volume of the vocals. This preset, as well as mine, has softer vocals...or possibly a more bass-centric focus than Neodymium does, although Neodymium is also a preset with a higher RMS.

Is this what you are getting at?
Author:  Bojcha [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Nope! Trick in that track "loud volume burst" (in two places mostly) And in this preset is just to much noticable.
Also in "ClawFinger - Do what i say" and more..
Also good demo is that one from PFD with comercials!
I am also searching for solution for this! For now i have, let's say, half solution.
Singleband compressor is just too much simple, i can adjust it for those tracks but then it will not feet for all others tracks.
AGC2 - also not good enough.

Hans already have one post in "Wish List" about this problem, so i am waiting what he will make.
Or maybe someone will make some interesting preset/solution for that problem in current ST.
Author:  achecz [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Yes, I know about this problem... but yet I couldn't find a good solution. My every attempt to reduce "volume burst" hurts dynamics. :cry:
Maybe I try the single band compressor for reduce this "efect"... I'm afraid that does not affect the normal songs. :|

Thanks for your response. I will try to reduce this to possible minimum.

EDIT: Hallefu*kinglujah! :twisted: This your little trick works very well on these songs (but I must use different output target level), thanks! ;)
So, tomorrow I will tune / test it perfectly.
Author:  Brian [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Quote:
Singleband compressor is just too much simple, i can adjust it for those tracks but then it will not feet for all others tracks.
Try enabling the singleband setting exactly how it is in V6_Web and see what you think. I disabled that based on some discussion somewhere on the forum suggesting that singleband should not be used very much... It might could be moved up to a higher RMS to keep from knocking down other peaks...
Author:  michi95 [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
@ Brian

Do you still prefer to use headphones most of the time ?


@ Others

What do you prefer (use most of the time):
Headphones ?
or
Speakers ?
Author:  Brian [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Quote:
@ Brian

Do you still prefer to use headphones most of the time ?
Yes, but even if I used electrostatic speakers with a crossover and separate amp driving a separate high excursion subwoofer (something from MartinLogan, perhaps), that won't change too much RMS being pushed. Making a mix too hot is a function of the mix and equipment (software and hardware) up to the point of, but not including, the final output device.
Author:  achecz [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
Still testing... Its impossible to find setting what kills the "volume bursts" but also can't cut down peaks (Dynamic) in normal songs. :x


@ Michi95: Headphones (DT990) 8-)
Author:  michi95 [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ache's Lucidity FX5 - Dynamic & Open preset (for ST 6.21
'Foo Fighters - The Pretender' ?
The album version from 'Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace' ?

I have just searched the internet database of my local public library.
It is available (that album) !
Tomorrow I can try this too. :D

Secrets Of The Mix Engineers: Rich Costey
The Foo Fighters: 'The Pretender'
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar08/a ... k_0308.htm
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