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Author:  station-drz [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:49 pm ]
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Does anyone like the effect of the "Softness" slider? If I don't get any responses from people that like it I'll remove it again. (It makes the attack faster, so it's basically the same thing as the attack multiplier, but in layman's terms).


Other question: Here's my suggestion for settings that should be available in the main window. So basically, this is what a novice user would see if he stays at the Processing screen. Am I missing anything?

Pre Amp / Post Amp
Density / Aggressiveness / Loudness
Stereo Boost strength
RDA TA (with current RDS text display)


So not included are things like AGC settings, noise gate settings, bass boost.
I think you should keep it, at least leave it in the "Extreme Tweaker" interface. More is better for Extreme Tweakers :)
indeed, used it for my new preset that will be beta posted soon, but now updated to the last version i miss the bit the softness slider did.
Author:  Brian [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:22 pm ]
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I may have found the problem with the excruciatingly slow disk writes on my system. It was potentially something to do with Comodo Firewall. I saw where version 6 was released a couple of months ago, so I uninstalled version 5, and after the reboot, preset saving is vastly improved - now down to a max of 2 seconds vs. 66 seconds.

Next test is to install version 6 and see if the disk writes slow down again.

Edit: Version 6 is installed, and saving presets is still the same. It did not slow back down. The only things I've done is uninstall Comodo 5, install Comodo 6, and defragment again. Maybe it was the fragmentation? I'll keep an eye on it.
Author:  hvz [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:04 pm ]
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Does anyone like the effect of the "Softness" slider? If I don't get any responses from people that like it I'll remove it again. (It makes the attack faster, so it's basically the same thing as the attack multiplier, but in layman's terms).


Other question: Here's my suggestion for settings that should be available in the main window. So basically, this is what a novice user would see if he stays at the Processing screen. Am I missing anything?

Pre Amp / Post Amp
Density / Aggressiveness / Loudness
Stereo Boost strength
RDA TA (with current RDS text display)


So not included are things like AGC settings, noise gate settings, bass boost.
I think you should keep it, at least leave it in the "Extreme Tweaker" interface. More is better for Extreme Tweakers :)
indeed, used it for my new preset that will be beta posted soon, but now updated to the last version i miss the bit the softness slider did.
That slider is identical to the attack multiplier!!!!!! Similar to how the "Aggressiveness" slider corresponds to the release & release hold multiplier. It's basically the 'for dummies' variant, and it works in the opposite direction.

But, does your comment mean that you think it should be available to 'simple' interface users besides Density and Aggression? I heard little difference when changing the value, that's why I removed it...
Author:  hvz [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.03 BETA
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I may have found the problem with the excruciatingly slow disk writes on my system. It was potentially something to do with Comodo Firewall. I saw where version 6 was released a couple of months ago, so I uninstalled version 5, and after the reboot, preset saving is vastly improved - now down to a max of 2 seconds vs. 66 seconds.

Next test is to install version 6 and see if the disk writes slow down again.

Edit: Version 6 is installed, and saving presets is still the same. It did not slow back down. The only things I've done is uninstall Comodo 5, install Comodo 6, and defragment again. Maybe it was the fragmentation? I'll keep an eye on it.
It makes sense that they fixed it. I'm definitely not the only person who is using this Windows API so chances are they have received complaints.
Author:  hvz [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:18 pm ]
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Again .... what is the problem with the "bands" crossover display ? It consumes a HUGE CPU power when mouse goes over it.
On the other hand .. sliders are Ok now i think.
Just few GUI tweaks :
1. "Speeds" - give "Freq" some more space (to fit the whole word Frequency) and take this space from the "Monitor" options.. it`s to large now there .
2. Same for "levels" window
3. Same for "Detection" window
4. Try same for the "Burst protection" window
All these sliders are already very small (I tried adjusting them on a 7" touch screen, and it was annoyingly small) - I might make the Monitor button smaller as well though.
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- Flat freq response below Bands
- Band coupling below Main levels
Number of bands, flat frequency response, band coupling and median calculation are all related, that's why I've put them in the same column. Most important thing on top.
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- Quick adjust below Bands and Flat freq response
No, these are the most important settings, so they are all the way to the left.
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- More space for the display levels in the main MB window and for the Monitor .
What do you mean by display levels?
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Suggestion for the Median : for me is useless ( remove it )
For me and several others it's extremely useful, in fact I would say it's hard to make a really good preset without them........................ Also, I know people have asked for an option to hide them, I might still do that since people seem to find them annoying - but what I can say is this: If you're at a radio station, with a quick glance at these median bars you can immediately identify some audio problems.
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Something that may be don`t surprise you : I very often have mouse go away from the slider that i adjust .... it goes to the down side of GUI and every time i turn it back to the slider :)
Actually I though that that didn't happen at all anymore!!!!! What type of setup are you using, some remote login or VMware display?
Author:  Brian [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:40 pm ]
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Suggestion for the Median : for me is useless ( remove it )
For me and several others it's extremely useful, in fact I would say it's hard to make a really good preset without them........................ Also, I know people have asked for an option to hide them, I might still do that since people seem to find them annoying - but what I can say is this: If you're at a radio station, with a quick glance at these median bars you can immediately identify some audio problems.
I think you can make everyone happy by making the median display optional. It was optional in the "classic" multiband. Well, it's not optional in classic now, because it is simply not there in the classic multiband, but I digress... ;)

So, I think you can make everyone happy by making the median display optional *AND* putting it back in the classic multiband section... 8-)
Author:  DJ-DOGGY [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:41 pm ]
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This is what i mean....
This button is looking bad.... like dead :)
i mean to make it little more space like this one in right , but may be not that big.
Just to make it more to look like button :)

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Author:  hvz [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:12 am ]
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BETA065:
Stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 04-065.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 04-065.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 04-065.dll

DONE:
- Added negative values to Density slider
- Made Monitor button smaller
- Made 6 dB lines in meters more prominent
- Hide Median display?
- Update/Order presets
- Change version number

TODO:
- Reset doesn't work for equalizers
- First Generic preset doesn't work
- Check diff between Advanced and Expert mode - maybe I can remove one. --> No, all modes are meaningful. Did move some things from Advanced to Expert though.
- Test FM Europe presets for BS412 compliance
- Finish: Multiband/Singleband compressors: Is Basic mode good? Or should that be simpler, and more settings only visible in Advanced mode? ---> KEEPING IT THIS WAY FOR NOW.
- Update main processing window (remove 'Stereo Boost' checkbox)
- Preset updates if anything new arrives
- Check/update default declipper settings (JesseG/bojcha edits)
- Improved issue that caused rumbling sounds in bass when combining non-phase linear HPF with declipper.
- Release
Author:  \_/ [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:47 am ]
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Thanks Hans for the new version!
Why do most presets use noise reduction? Is this actually to achieve that effect or some other like more control over the highs, de-essing etc?
Btw you missed updating some presets like the wiele one and the generic/low latency ones...
The "Constant volume, increased stereo" preset still has no effect when chosen as I already mentioned several versions ago.
Author:  DJ-DOGGY [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:57 am ]
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Looks like Hans don`t understand me for the Monitor button , but nevermind.
Hide median looks good , works good.
6db lines are OK.
Negative density slider values also OK, work OK.

in older versions the bandpass filter was looking more STEEP..
But in latest versions it looks different ?!!? Any explanation about this one ?
i see that there is peaks to -80db ... where in old versions they was at max -90db down , and everything from the value of lowpass to pilot signal was more strong down. Now it seems to be softer .... Hans did you do something to the filter ?

I`m talking about these ones in the picture.... on older versions it was not like this.

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