Stereo Tool

Hans could you check RDS code. I now had a couple of times problems with the RDS, that TP turned on and off automatically also without music. And a few moments ago i had all kinds of strange texts. If i reload the preset again it's ok. I don't know yet what part of the settings that i change gives this garbage texts.

can you check what the texts are? ( exact writings..)
what souncard do u have?

do u have any alternative frequencies ?

i smell a bug..

My guess would be that some memory is getting overwritten. If that's indeed the case, it might be related to the crashes when Stereo Tool is closed.

(Camclone might be on the spot with his alternative frequencies question though, that's the only change in the RDS code in the last year, made a few beta's ago).

About declipper + techno (especially gabber): Yes, keep it turned off... I don't think there's really a way to distinguish between wanted and unwanted clipping. Well there are some ideas but I won't implement them for now.

I still say it has too much mids, and not enough bass...

Take a listen to Rob Dougan - Clubbed To Death (Kurayamino Mix). Compare yours vs. mine...

Also:

Kylie Minogue - Slow
Eminem - Lose Yourself
Eminem, DMX, Obie Trice - Go To Sleep
NiN - Closer
Enrique Iglesias - Tonight
Yello - Oh Yeah
Katy Perry - Firework
Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz - Get Low
Pretty Ricky - Your Body (Yes Sir)
Sir Mix-A-Lot - Baby Got Back

...and numerous others that have stronger drums and basslines than what you've said you normally listen to...

Brian, you're right, if you expect that the tracks you have named should come out with the same mixing characteristics as the original versions.
But my processing approach to reach consistency for old and new music is based on spectral processing with the multiband (IMO it is the only way to have the same subjective loudness for old and new music).
I try to find a spectral balance.
And of course this leads to a change for the mixing characteristics (and the dynamic structure too - for many tracks it sounds similar to ND - remember what Hans wrote earlier about MB using limiting instead of compression characteristic).
Especially modern club type music (originally mixed with a somehow unnatural volume of bass and bassdrums) comes out with reduced bass energy.

So, IO 2.3.16K is of course not the best choice if you play modern club type music most of the time.
But IMO it is the best choice if you play very different music on your playlists
(e.g. Joan Baez -> Madonna -> Leonard Cohen -> Lady Gaga -> Don McLean -> Massive Attack -> Eddie Cochran .....).

Try a track like Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street with your preset or with Addiction v11 and many other "traditional" presets.
At the end of the intro when the saxophone starts to play it seems as if someone in panic pulls down a mixing console fader.

Hey guys, I've been messing around with the last beta through BreakAway so that I can route all my audio through ST. Pretty much have all the non registered options in use except for stereo and phase stuff. I also have it outputting directly to the soundcard. Compared to what the final release of 6.1 the beta is using at most 12% more of my cpu. I have an over clocked quad core, 3.2Ghz so it doesn't always cause problems. What I'm wondering is why the cpu usage is still at 5% even when ST isn't getting any audio information. What on earth is it processing, why is it processing, and can that be stopped?

On top of that, I'm not sure if this is break away or ST but if the total CPU usage goes about 80% I start getting crackles. I can stop this by turning off harmonics, up-sampling, and loudness but I figured this wouldn't happen with everything that stereo tool is connected to (ST, Foobar, and BA) having realtime priority.

Hans, ever got any headway in multi-threading ST? You have a lot of things going on in ST now. I'm just wondering, I know its practically impossible with audio applications like ST since everything needs to be on time and can't be really "split".

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Don't have that, but if you listen to yours with:

Tom Jones - It's Not Unusual (vocals are screaming the entire track, bass guitar is barely noticable, but it isn't yet ear piercing vocals)

The Rolling Stones - Paint It Black ("I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes..." is where the vocal screaming starts for this track, and it is EAR PIERCING)

Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive (again, the vocals are too strong in numerous places)

Johnny Cash - Ring Of Fire (brass too strong)

Apocalyptica - O Fortuna (brass and cymbals grate on the ears at times)

KISS - I Was Made For Loving You (vocals and guitar harmonics are overpowering)

Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower (his guitar is too strong at points, to the point of ear piercing)

That was all older stuff...

Rob Zombie - Dragula (I'm listening to this right now, and it's wearing my ears out, switching to mine lessened the headache that was starting)

Linkin Park - What I've Done (again, guitars to the point of grating and cymbals)

Faith No More - Epic (same)

I had been seriously revamping mine, but listening to yours for a while now has my ears bleeding from too powerful mids (vocals / guitar harmonics) and low-end highs (cymbals and brass). I'm going to have to stop until tomorrow to give my ears time to recover. I was trying to be polite with what I was trying to say before, but that wasn't working, so, sorry

OK. I found a copy of Baker Street.

Your reaction to my preset is not surprising. Your preset exhibits the same "ear-bleeding vocals, brass, and woodwinds" with that track.

The difference is you have multiband set to LIMIT. My preset, Bojcha's, and others, are set to COMPRESS.

Now when you have it set for LIMIT, it's not going to touch below the soft limit, which for the critical 1.4k and 2.8k bands you have all the way up at max (10). You have extremely high upspeed and very low downspeed for those bands, which is why everything is SCREAMING in those bands. In some tracks, it's not as pronounced, like many Pink Floyd tracks, but with others, it is BRUTAL on the ears.

If you go to this web site: http://www.independentrecording.net/irn ... isplay.htm

...and look at the vocals, guitars, brass, and woodwinds, you'll note they all share a common harmonic area right there at where you want things the absolute loudest, with some having the upper-end fundamentals there as well. If you look on the right side of the chart at "Spectrum Data", you'll note that "High-Midrange" states that for 2k-4k if you have too much, it can cause listener fatigue. That is EXACTLY what I experience when listening to numerous different tracks with that preset. If you also look back at the Midrange comments, you'll see "honking" and "tinny", which I've also sensed on numerous tracks. Some are ok, but numerous tracks are just way too mid-biased.

I know what is wrong with mine, and I'm working to address it. I had too much EQ on the low end, and the bass was choking multiband's total output level. However, my preset doesn't wear me out / give me headaches like yours does.

So, again, sorry for not being gentle, but, you asked.........

Late edit: You can make my mids scream like what you appear to like if you simply change my preset's multiband setting from COMPRESS to LIMIT. When you do that, the sax is overpowering, but that appears to be what you like

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@ Brian

A simple question:
Comparing your SSm4 with my IO2.3.16K, what Post Amp compensation value(s) do you use ?