Stereo Tool :: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA

While you're talking about Magic RDS, this issue was never solved : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23608
Each time you switch from RT+ to "normal" RT, Stereo Tool will add +00 - to the text

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Still waiting for the ASCII connection by MagicRDS to support AF Method A.
Any thoughts on that? I see no reason why the B Method was on the list.

Please Hans?

Do you dynamically update the list from MagicRDS? I'm asking because if not, it would work just as well if you just set it in Stereo Tool directly. And I don't think it's usually a good idea to change it dynamically (AF method B was created for dynamic switching behavior).

Well, I want MagicRDS to disable the AF functionality when playing regional advert breaks. I see no other option to do this through AF Method A.
I'm not familiar with the Method B, but MagicRDS uses the ASCII method for communication with StereoTool, and the UECP is not working, and I think the AF commands are not implemented/understood with ASCII in StereoTool.

To be honest, RT+ can be always on, untill you have the separator in between. I don't see big problem here.

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Still waiting for the ASCII connection by MagicRDS to support AF Method A.
Any thoughts on that? I see no reason why the B Method was on the list.

Please Hans?

Hans, One thing that became very useful for some, is the option to Mono (L, R or SUM) at the input. Some old engineers like me are used to adjust processing mono first. If possible, OFC...

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Hans, One thing that became very useful for some, is the option to Mono (L, R or SUM) at the input. Some old engineers like me are used to adjust processing mono first. If possible, OFC...

Also a good one. Left or right only was already there, I've now added L+R mode as well. So now you have normal stereo, Left, Right, L+R, and L/R swapped. (Any other requests?)

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Ok, I see what you want - you really want to use AF method B though (which I'm not supporting at all - yet). AF method B is rather complex, you can specify which channels always broadcast the same signal and which don't. You also have to modify the PI codes for this to work. In fact, AF method A is ignored by many receivers (they switch to other stations regardless of whether AF frequencies are set in the first place - just based on PI code, I'm kinda guessing here but I think AF method A is really only used by receivers that have only have 1 tuner).

It shouldn't be too difficult to add AF method A support, I'm not too sure though that it's going to do what you expect it to do (stopping receivers from switching during ad breaks).

Author:	drbusy [ Fri May 04, 2018 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: While you're talking about Magic RDS, this issue was never solved : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23608 Each time you switch from RT+ to "normal" RT, Stereo Tool will add +00 - to the text To be honest, RT+ can be always on, untill you have the separator in between.

Author:	drbusy [ Fri May 04, 2018 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: Quote: Still waiting for the ASCII connection by MagicRDS to support AF Method A. Any thoughts on that? I see no reason why the B Method was on the list. Please Hans? Do you dynamically update the list from MagicRDS? I'm asking because if not, it would work just as well if you just set it in Stereo Tool directly. And I don't think it's usually a good idea to change it dynamically (AF method B was created for dynamic switching behavior). Well, I want MagicRDS to disable the AF functionality when playing regional advert breaks. I see no other option to do this through AF Method A. I'm not familiar with the Method B, but MagicRDS uses the ASCII method for communication with StereoTool, and the UECP is not working, and I think the AF commands are not implemented/understood with ASCII in StereoTool. OK, so you will rather kill AF and potentially lose your audience, than just leave it on? I don't quite see the benefit here.

Author:	PaddyC [ Fri May 04, 2018 10:23 pm ]
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Quote: To be honest, RT+ can be always on, untill you have the separator in between. I don't see big problem here. It’s not a problem if you just want to send the song title and the artist. It is a problem if you want to send something else during, say, commercials.

Author:	All Night [ Sat May 05, 2018 5:15 am ]
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On "Absolute Highs," shouldn't "Follow Delossifier" and "Off if no MPEG" be separate options? ("Off if no MPEG" being disabled if "Follow Delossifier" is not used.)

Author:	dj_szpajda [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:50 am ]
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Hi, ST doesn't play after upgrade to VLC v3.0.2. I have also some request to add ^2 to digital mode MB also. cheers

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Author:	hvz [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:59 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Still waiting for the ASCII connection by MagicRDS to support AF Method A. Any thoughts on that? I see no reason why the B Method was on the list. Please Hans? Do you dynamically update the list from MagicRDS? I'm asking because if not, it would work just as well if you just set it in Stereo Tool directly. And I don't think it's usually a good idea to change it dynamically (AF method B was created for dynamic switching behavior). Well, I want MagicRDS to disable the AF functionality when playing regional advert breaks. I see no other option to do this through AF Method A. I'm not familiar with the Method B, but MagicRDS uses the ASCII method for communication with StereoTool, and the UECP is not working, and I think the AF commands are not implemented/understood with ASCII in StereoTool. Ok, I see what you want - you really want to use AF method B though (which I'm not supporting at all - yet). AF method B is rather complex, you can specify which channels always broadcast the same signal and which don't. You also have to modify the PI codes for this to work. In fact, AF method A is ignored by many receivers (they switch to other stations regardless of whether AF frequencies are set in the first place - just based on PI code, I'm kinda guessing here but I think AF method A is really only used by receivers that have only have 1 tuner). It shouldn't be too difficult to add AF method A support, I'm not too sure though that it's going to do what you expect it to do (stopping receivers from switching during ad breaks).

Author:	hvz [ Mon May 07, 2018 11:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Hans, One thing that became very useful for some, is the option to Mono (L, R or SUM) at the input. Some old engineers like me are used to adjust processing mono first. If possible, OFC... Also a good one. Left or right only was already there, I've now added L+R mode as well. So now you have normal stereo, Left, Right, L+R, and L/R swapped. (Any other requests?)

Author:	nunoserra [ Mon May 07, 2018 11:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: Hans, One thing that became very useful for some, is the option to Mono (L, R or SUM) at the input. Some old engineers like me are used to adjust processing mono first. If possible, OFC... Also a good one. Left or right only was already there, I've now added L+R mode as well. So now you have normal stereo, Left, Right, L+R, and L/R swapped. (Any other requests?) A soundcard for input with different SR

Author:	pthompson3 [ Mon May 07, 2018 3:31 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Do you dynamically update the list from MagicRDS? I'm asking because if not, it would work just as well if you just set it in Stereo Tool directly. And I don't think it's usually a good idea to change it dynamically (AF method B was created for dynamic switching behavior). Well, I want MagicRDS to disable the AF functionality when playing regional advert breaks. I see no other option to do this through AF Method A. I'm not familiar with the Method B, but MagicRDS uses the ASCII method for communication with StereoTool, and the UECP is not working, and I think the AF commands are not implemented/understood with ASCII in StereoTool. Ok, I see what you want - you really want to use AF method B though (which I'm not supporting at all - yet). AF method B is rather complex, you can specify which channels always broadcast the same signal and which don't. You also have to modify the PI codes for this to work. In fact, AF method A is ignored by many receivers (they switch to other stations regardless of whether AF frequencies are set in the first place - just based on PI code, I'm kinda guessing here but I think AF method A is really only used by receivers that have only have 1 tuner). It shouldn't be too difficult to add AF method A support, I'm not too sure though that it's going to do what you expect it to do (stopping receivers from switching during ad breaks). Thats an interesting reason drbusy for wishing to implement. In fact others with network distribution requirements may also be interested in similar functionality. I see potential in this.

Author:	hvz [ Mon May 07, 2018 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
I've just put in method A from MagicRDS, Method B is a bit more work so I'll do that when I have more time. I also haven't tested it want to focus on other stuff first, but the next beta will have it - I guess someone will complain if it doesn't work as it should. (I did follow the behavior in the debugger, just didn't send it through a decoder to verify correct encoding).

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