Stereo Tool :: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA

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Hello Hans,

Problem with Stereotool VST with Adobe Audition 3 for every Beta release after .50. I am using the VST version, 32 bit. When I load the VST into Audition, the Thimeo menu for Stereotool disappears. I have Perfect Declipper (stand alone) installed as well, and Perfect Declipper is not affected. Stereotool works fine for versions up to .50, but maybe it's something in the logging process that causes Audition to not recognize the Beta update. Have you heard of this from anyone else? OS is Windows 7. Do you need more details?

Ted Alexander - Telos Alliance

Hi Ted!

What do you mean by the Thimeo menu? Do you mean that the whole thing isn't visible anymore under Effects -> VST? I have an older Audition version here and in that version, the last beta (059) runs fine - I haven't tried the in-between versions. There was a bug a few versions ago that caused VST reads to fail, so if that was the problem it should be fixed now.

we get a lot of extra signal pumped in by auto eq on 3000-12000 Herz in 059 compared to 052, on our main test record everything should be more or less zero it now shows BIG on the corresponding graphs and sound has become is very "sharp", a LOT of mids in it

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Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. I would recommend you rebalance your relative target levels in Auto EQ with the most recent build. I know that I had to do it on my presets.

Shouldn't the AutoEQ target level defaults be adjusted in an upcoming beta to get the sound back on track?

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tnxs Wes, I activated ITU 1770 and changed settings and indeed it sounds great again but I'm just carefully inquiring wether this is meant to be or in a fourthnight will be rolled back because of a bug, this is the very 1st version in which Music from John Miles processes no tapenoise at all, I have in fact only 2 records left which are so far impossible to clean up here, both Simon Webbe hits, I don't know what it is I am hearing on these but it's not good, all other difficult ones are Hollywood Quality now

Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change.

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Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change.

Interesting. What changes are those, because none are mentioned in the release notes of the versions JdR2 mentioned?

Author:	Ted Alexander [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: Hello Hans, Problem with Stereotool VST with Adobe Audition 3 for every Beta release after .50. I am using the VST version, 32 bit. When I load the VST into Audition, the Thimeo menu for Stereotool disappears. I have Perfect Declipper (stand alone) installed as well, and Perfect Declipper is not affected. Stereotool works fine for versions up to .50, but maybe it's something in the logging process that causes Audition to not recognize the Beta update. Have you heard of this from anyone else? OS is Windows 7. Do you need more details? Ted Alexander - Telos Alliance Hi Ted! What do you mean by the Thimeo menu? Do you mean that the whole thing isn't visible anymore under Effects -> VST? I have an older Audition version here and in that version, the last beta (059) runs fine - I haven't tried the in-between versions. There was a bug a few versions ago that caused VST reads to fail, so if that was the problem it should be fixed now. Hi Hans, Yes, it's the Effects->VST listing. In AA3, after .050, whenever I loaded it into Stereotool, and tried to run the 32 bit VST, the "StereoTool" menu item in the Effects-> VST menu disappeared. The Thimeo "folder" disappeared and left the Perfect Declipper menu item standing alone. (I have the Perfect Declipper 32 bit VST stand alone installed). I did not try .058 since I suspected something in the NAN logging function didn't work right with AA3. I'll load .059 and let you know what results.

Author:	tjh [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
I'm getting audio skips when listening to streaming radio with the latest Beta (non-NAN logging) version. Does anyone else experience this? Using the 64bit standalone. I have verified using VLC native that it's not the audio stream skipping.

Author:	JdR2 [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:29 pm ]
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we get a lot of extra signal pumped in by auto eq on 3000-12000 Herz in 059 compared to 052, on our main test record everything should be more or less zero it now shows BIG on the corresponding graphs and sound has become is very "sharp", a LOT of mids in it

Author:	weskeene [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: we get a lot of extra signal pumped in by auto eq on 3000-12000 Herz in 059 compared to 052, on our main test record everything should be more or less zero it now shows BIG on the corresponding graphs and sound has become is very "sharp", a LOT of mids in it Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. I would recommend you rebalance your relative target levels in Auto EQ with the most recent build. I know that I had to do it on my presets.

Author:	All Night [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:07 pm ]
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Shouldn't the AutoEQ target level defaults be adjusted in an upcoming beta to get the sound back on track?

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Author:	JdR2 [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: we get a lot of extra signal pumped in by auto eq on 3000-12000 Herz in 059 compared to 052, on our main test record everything should be more or less zero it now shows BIG on the corresponding graphs and sound has become is very "sharp", a LOT of mids in it Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. I would recommend you rebalance your relative target levels in Auto EQ with the most recent build. I know that I had to do it on my presets. tnxs Wes, I activated ITU 1770 and changed settings and indeed it sounds great again but I'm just carefully inquiring wether this is meant to be or in a fourthnight will be rolled back because of a bug, this is the very 1st version in which Music from John Miles processes no tapenoise at all, I have in fact only 2 records left which are so far impossible to clean up here, both Simon Webbe hits, I don't know what it is I am hearing on these but it's not good, all other difficult ones are Hollywood Quality now

Author:	weskeene [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:13 pm ]
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Quote: Shouldn't the AutoEQ target level defaults be adjusted in an upcoming beta to get the sound back on track? Well, the current targets are probably correct for some format somewhere. Those things should be adjusted for the average of the programming your station actually plays. The defaults will work as they currently sit, though. I just went and checked. For my format, here's the difference between the new and old versions: Band 1: -0.5dB Band 2: No change Band 3: -0.1dB Band 4: +0.1dB Band 5: -2dB That isn't severe enough to cause any real problems. It's reasonable to expect that the old values are still appropriate...for some programming out there. Just not mine, anymore.

Author:	weskeene [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. I would recommend you rebalance your relative target levels in Auto EQ with the most recent build. I know that I had to do it on my presets. tnxs Wes, I activated ITU 1770 and changed settings and indeed it sounds great again but I'm just carefully inquiring wether this is meant to be or in a fourthnight will be rolled back because of a bug, this is the very 1st version in which Music from John Miles processes no tapenoise at all, I have in fact only 2 records left which are so far impossible to clean up here, both Simon Webbe hits, I don't know what it is I am hearing on these but it's not good, all other difficult ones are Hollywood Quality now I'm not aware of any bugs in the current code. Barring some other major discovery (unlikely), I would not expect this part of the program to change in any meaningful way prior to release.

Author:	\_/ [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. Interesting. What changes are those, because none are mentioned in the release notes of the versions JdR2 mentioned?

Author:	weskeene [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:02 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Recent changes to the dynamics "engine" have caused a lot of things change. Interesting. What changes are those, because none are mentioned in the release notes of the versions JdR2 mentioned? In this case, I'm referring to the new modes for all dynamics processing. I.E. what you get when "legacy mode" is unchecked. It's very much mentioned in the release notes. I believe Hans spent about 10 paragraphs on it.

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