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Author:  bob53bob [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
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- new composite limiter you foreshadowed 09 style. (~140% demodulated L/R audio levels, and lower modulation cost running RDS...) - what's not to like?

YES!!!! And SSB.
Hi Bob,

No doubt you are enjoying the 09 composite processing - greatly looking forward to Hans ST implementation (and undo etc). Top of its class, and economically on a pc. How good is that? How are you finding SSB compared to standard DSB in your market terrain? Was a lot of talk about it when it first hit the O hardware boxes, but it's been pretty quite lately. Thought we'd have more feedback if its producing significant benefits ?
Thanks for asking about my SSB results here in Indiana...some rolling hills, a very few sharp hills and hollers and some flat terrain. SSB with the Omnia 9 has produced 3 benefits...two of my observation and one by the owner. The owner lives in the shadowed area behind the tower and has a cheap portable radio in his bathroom at 10 miles (it's a class A 6KW/328' station)...it has always had noise depending on where a person was relative to the radio. Turning on the SSB instantly cleaned that issue up. My two observations are 1) Back in the mono FM days (showing my age--I'm talking over 40 years ago), you could drive to the end of an FM station's service area and listen reasonably well up to the point where you "drove off the cliff". Since stereo became commonplace, those days have been just a memory. Along came SSB and while I'm not going to tell you it makes FM cover like mono does, I am going to say that it restores the majority of the s/n lost in the fringe areas by operating in stereo. 2) This was a surprise : Say you have a station on 100.1 and 75 miles away, there's a station on 99.9 running IBOC/HD Radio which generates a lot of interference on 99.7 and 100.1. There's little doubt in my mind that SSB is less subject to this obnoxious interference than DSB is. So not even considering terrain, it's this man's opinion that SSB improves the coverage of a given station on a typical car radio in the real world--and at least in 1 case, on a cheap portable radio.

For the record, the program director from the station with the Omnia 9 recently purchased an FM station and has heard the comparison of the Omnia 9 vs my modest ST setup. He's on a budget and is interested in ST but he's heard the improvement in coverage afforded by SSB in the Omnia 9 and while he isn't necessarily waiting for ST to add SSB before deciding, he would at least like to know that at some point SSB will be a feature.
Author:  Bojcha [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
As Hans said, SSB is not possible without proper composite limiter. So when you see first betas with that, ssb will be just around the corner. :)
Author:  bob53bob [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
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As Hans said, SSB is not possible without proper composite limiter. So when you see first betas with that, ssb will be just around the corner. :)
And at the rate Hans pumps out new Betas, I'll look for it in about the next 45 minutes ;)
Author:  kylen [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
Hans - thanks very much for the 7.10 update lots of great features!
I have a simple-ish question concerning signal flow in the VST plugin.
Is there a block diagram showing signal path somewhere or does it kind of just follow the "Processing" hierarchy in the navigation panel on the left of the plugin.
In other words: Processing --> Declipper --> Noise Removal --> AGC and so on down the list...

I came into your plugin at 6.32 last december so I am not very experienced with it yet.
Hopefully an updated 7 version of the manual would be in the future after you get the features fine-tuned?
I can always come in to the forum to ask specific questions too I suppose - looks like lots of experience here.
Thanks
Author:  hvz [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
Hello Kylen,

Yes, the order in the menu, or the bar at the bottom, matches the actual order in the processing. Since I just don't seem to have enough time to update the help pages, and things are getting more and more complex, I guess at some point (soon) I should hire someone to write a manual. For now, just ask your questions here.. And, since I'm trying to make thing 'easy' for people who have experience with other processors, if you do understand other processors but Stereo Tool is unclear to you, I'm not doing my job well enough - please tell me (in that case, suggestions how to make things easier would be very welcome).
Author:  laupnager [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:11 am ]
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Ive assumed down means attack speed and up means release speed?
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Author:  hvz [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:28 pm ]
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Ive assumed down means attack speed and up means release speed?
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Yes.
Author:  phoenix [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
First off, congrats for the new release!

Bestowed with some spare time this weekend, so thought I could check out the next beta (last one I used was beta 46).

Not sure how close or far your web-hosting service provider is from the NATO bunker :mrgreen: , it takes me close to 50 seconds to load the index forum page of StereoTool. And when I attempted to download the latest VST beta version, I somehow was reminded of a virtue called patience - took an entire 22 minutes. This, on an 8 Mbps line. Not much you could do about it. :D

Anyways... concerning last beta. Some changes are really welcome - might have been introduced sometime in between. For instance, controls using keyboard and mouse are really usable now and working great in VST. Also liked the graphic illustration of slope in MB. Really nice!

About sound... I can feel the presence of high frequencies a lot more now. Those tinkling and sibilances are very vivid. Only at times there's some weird harshness and unnatural reproduction of highs. I am sure that would be taken care of. In short, sound has improved a great deal.
I can't remember when was the last time I checked out Breakaway Live for comparing the audio quality with ST. I can say for sure ST wins hands down.
Author:  darth2602 [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
could you add :

- an option to have the 7.03 design style for equalizer, compressor,.... a general setting for all feature or feature by feature (only equalizer, only compressor,...)
- a reverb
- specific presets for domestic uses (palying music only, not web radio) like : rock, techno, rap, jazz, rnb, country, classsic, unplug, orchestral,....etc etc

thanks so much for your amazing work
Author:  Bojcha [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 7.10
So if we only rename preset, for example, "Easy Rider" to "Jazz"... will that sound better?
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