Stereo Tool :: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA

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I'm having a similar problem to that Near05 reports, the AGC reduces volume, but it doesn't increase it properly when using the "new AGC mode", I kept playing with the settings and managed to fix it, increasing the Release time and reducing the Attack time a bit from the default settings, you can see how it looks here:

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Max attack works fine though. By the way, you shouldn't really need Max Release Speed anymore because the release speed is no longer excessively fast on loud bursts.

Thank you for this information. I tried it once, and it actually works. Exactly this setting had now been in the preset of weskeene. So that was the difference, and because it is not at maximum by default, nothing seems to have happened.

By the way, with the new beta, I also have crashes of Adobe Audition every now and then when I open StereoTool. This is rather irregular, but then the whole program crashes.

Name of the application with errors: Adobe Audition CC. exe, version: 11.0.1.49, timestamp: 0x5a545b16
Name of the faulty module: vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll, version: 0.0.0.0.0, timestamp: 0x5a8607ae
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Error offset: 0x00000000000028c61a7
ID of the incorrect process: 0x2784
Start time of the faulty application: 0x01d3a763478e1a42
Path of the incorrect application: C: \Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Audition CC 2018\Adobe Audition CC. exe
Path of the faulty module: C: \Program Files\VstPlugins\vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll
Report identifier: 8bc4e166-c196-461a-b864-cae317ec9aef
Complete name of the incorrect package:
Application ID that is relative to the incorrect package:

Problem Events: APPCRASH
Application name: Adobe Audition CC. exe
Application version: 11.0.1.49
Application time stamp: 5a545b16
Error module name: vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll
Error module version: 0.0.0.0.0
Error module timestamp: 5a8607ae
Exception code: c0000005
Exception offset: 00000000028c61a7
Operating system version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1031
Additional information 1: c4b6
Additional information 2: c4b69e2e18eaa63e51b98ea400746398
Additional information 3: e259
Additional information 4: e259861a230e7103057252533b493b9f16

Author:	PCWalker [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:13 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Please disregard and delete my account on this forum. I've always heard it said that three times the charm. In this case, it isn't so. Instead of getting angry, I'd rather just have the account here deleted.

Author:	hvz [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: In the chain of tabs on Stereo Tool, it does appear it was purposed that bandpass filter took place after processing, but before clipping and limiting, bass boost and the single band compressor/limiter, which it does. Not too sure why, but that's why I asked in the first place. The reason for this is that the phase linear bandpass filter can leave some mild 'rumble' sounds. Nothing you would normally notice (although it's more noticeable at lower latency or quality settings, which is why I made the non-phase linear version in the first place) - but if all the compression comes after it, it can be boosted up to a level where you actually hear it. The non-phase linear HPF doesn't have that problem, but it's not phase linear, and due to the way everything works, it's much easier to put it at the start of the chain than in the middle. So that's why this one is located at a different spot.

Author:	JdR2 [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
tested beta 28 vs beta 21 against "Music" from John Miles (intro, piano remarks earlier in the thread) and this is much much much better indeed (much) despite some things obviously not 100% yet, still some tape noise processed but better by far

Author:	All Night [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Please disregard and delete my account on this forum. I've always heard it said that three times the charm. In this case, it isn't so. Instead of getting angry, I'd rather just have the account here deleted. Geez dude, it seems like your problem has a fix. There must be a failure to communicate somewhere in the ether here.

Author:	All Night [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: tested beta 28 vs beta 21 against "Music" from John Miles (intro, piano remarks earlier in the thread) and this is much much much better indeed (much) despite some things obviously not 100% yet, still some tape noise processed but better by far I agree, I'm just not certain what's going on at the beginning of tracks with Beta 28.

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Author:	weskeene [ Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:27 pm ]
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Quote: Please disregard and delete my account on this forum. I've always heard it said that three times the charm. In this case, it isn't so. Instead of getting angry, I'd rather just have the account here deleted. I like how you wrote this post three times. First the original, then you came back twice to add more details to your resignation. Are you really gone this time?

Author:	hvz [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:09 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: tested beta 28 vs beta 21 against "Music" from John Miles (intro, piano remarks earlier in the thread) and this is much much much better indeed (much) despite some things obviously not 100% yet, still some tape noise processed but better by far I agree, I'm just not certain what's going on at the beginning of tracks with Beta 28. Release can be insanely fast. that will make the beginning of a new track problematic. Will fix that - as soon as I have time again (got to do some other urgent stuff, among others for a station that's going live in a few days on 7 transmitters that needs an extra feature added before they go live - so I have to do that first).

Author:	All Night [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Thanks for the explanation. If I need to say it I don't expect any rushing, I can't imagine how busy you must be, and I think I have a hard time.

Author:	hvz [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Quote: Quote: I'm having a similar problem to that Near05 reports, the AGC reduces volume, but it doesn't increase it properly when using the "new AGC mode", I kept playing with the settings and managed to fix it, increasing the Release time and reducing the Attack time a bit from the default settings, you can see how it looks here: Quote: Max attack works fine though. By the way, you shouldn't really need Max Release Speed anymore because the release speed is no longer excessively fast on loud bursts. Thank you for this information. I tried it once, and it actually works. Exactly this setting had now been in the preset of weskeene. So that was the difference, and because it is not at maximum by default, nothing seems to have happened. By the way, with the new beta, I also have crashes of Adobe Audition every now and then when I open StereoTool. This is rather irregular, but then the whole program crashes. Name of the application with errors: Adobe Audition CC. exe, version: 11.0.1.49, timestamp: 0x5a545b16 Name of the faulty module: vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll, version: 0.0.0.0.0, timestamp: 0x5a8607ae Exception code: 0xc0000005 Error offset: 0x00000000000028c61a7 ID of the incorrect process: 0x2784 Start time of the faulty application: 0x01d3a763478e1a42 Path of the incorrect application: C: \Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Audition CC 2018\Adobe Audition CC. exe Path of the faulty module: C: \Program Files\VstPlugins\vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll Report identifier: 8bc4e166-c196-461a-b864-cae317ec9aef Complete name of the incorrect package: Application ID that is relative to the incorrect package: Problem Events: APPCRASH Application name: Adobe Audition CC. exe Application version: 11.0.1.49 Application time stamp: 5a545b16 Error module name: vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA855-028. dll Error module version: 0.0.0.0.0 Error module timestamp: 5a8607ae Exception code: c0000005 Exception offset: 00000000028c61a7 Operating system version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.0.768.101 Locale ID: 1031 Additional information 1: c4b6 Additional information 2: c4b69e2e18eaa63e51b98ea400746398 Additional information 3: e259 Additional information 4: e259861a230e7103057252533b493b9f16 I may have just fixed this. At least I found a bug that could cause writes in the wrong memory location, which could have all kinds of unpredictable consequences. If it still happens with the next beta (not sure yet when I'll post it) let me know. It's particularly annoying that this crash apparently isn't handled in Stereo Tool itself, so something serious is wrong there - but it could easily be what I just mentioned.

Author:	Bojcha [ Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Stereo Tool 8.55 BETA
Hi all! After a while, i'm back to ST (kinda) First thing i tested new AGC, and i must say that it fixes 1 problem from old (legacy) AGC but presents about 3 nre problems. New agc should be RMS based, wich is at first great idea, however after just few test tracks, i found that it's not so good. Firstly i was tuning attack and relese speeds to some normal leveling behaviour, when i first thing i realised that idea of RMS leveling is actually gone! But, on top of that it presents me new problem then, it still on some soft-part-of-track ends up massively amplyfied! The effect is so huge that cant be avoided even with even more perfectly tuned speeds or Sidechain(s). That one thing that is better in new AGC then in old AGC is more accurate attack, old one was just too slow near-target and too fast on big changes. New one do that much better. Perfect tracks to test AGC are those that have both Dynamic and compressed parts. Or Dynamic tracks it much singing and/or loud voices.

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