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Stereo Tool 6.10
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Author:  DJ-DOGGY [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:00 am ]
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I hear it almost always. Anyway here is sample and preset. So in ST just change from 1024 to 4096 and turn OFF and ON Bass Boost.
Choosed this one, where about 3 weird effects are present. rrr.rrr.rr and 'bad-mp3-like' and distortion-like.

For better expirience, set bass level on your amplifier at minimum. :)
http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/94520117/file.html


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Insteresting is that at 128000Hz.. it's almost gone. Even 512 samples sounds much better then other rates.

why in the preset BANDPASS is ON .... when is on the effect of hrr hrr hrr is gone. Tell the man to turn off the bandpass because it clears the bad effects when 4096 is selected
Author:  DJ-DOGGY [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:10 am ]
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Hans, Make Hard Limit avaliable only when loudness is used.

btw.. i love this 1+2 band coupling. Just if possible slider for amount of coupling.... ehh.. again, sun is up

I think that is not a good idea too...
Noooo

@Bojcha : would you check the bass boost hrrr hrr hrr problem with this song to see what we have :) check it with beta 110 and beta 111 . Any difference ?
http://www42.zippyshare.com/v/12318361/file.html

Also this recording for .... Did you have this pop ..pop from time to time , sometimes weak sometimes very loud and sometimes is not from time to time .
http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/53896223/file.html
Author:  Luke [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:20 am ]
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Wow, I went to bed at 1 or 2am and now 10am there are 3 pages more.

Just compared 110 to a 79 version. The ringing is gone indeed, like in completely.

Hans is there a way to add a pre-amp volume slider just before the multiband? Should make it alot easier to drive the MB like wanted.
Now you always have to fiddle with the settings of the AGC to get the wanted multiband input which should actually not be the task of the AGC.
Author:  hvz [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:49 am ]
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Wow, I went to bed at 1 or 2am and now 10am there are 3 pages more.

Just compared 110 to a 79 version. The ringing is gone indeed, like in completely.

Hans is there a way to add a pre-amp volume slider just before the multiband? Should make it alot easier to drive the MB like wanted.
Now you always have to fiddle with the settings of the AGC to get the wanted multiband input which should actually not be the task of the AGC.
I know, I'll do that in the (also planned) GUI redesign.
Author:  Luke [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:51 am ]
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Hans, did you go to bed for just 3 hours? :o
Author:  hvz [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:59 am ]
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..Actually I compared Loudness to the clipper in the Omnia 9, a $10,000 hardware box, and the two are virtually indistinguishable.
Strongly agree, been comparing the mpx files encoded by VST to that of the Omnia 9 posted in PFD site.
We actually A/B'd the same recording (Stereo Tool's clipper on the intermediate signal drained out of the Omnia 9 just before the clipper) and even when switching back and forth the difference was hard to hear - the Omnia 9 has slightly better highs, which can be explained by the fact that the clipper is composite, and that's it. Oh and at the time I was clipping the highs harder than I am now, so that could also explain it. BTW: That was before I created the filter that protects highs against distortion caused by loud bass bass, before I did that even the amount of distortion in that case was more or less the same.
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On a side note - since you indicated of an upcoming MB redesign, may I also suggest to incorporate standard values in millisecs for Attack and Release times instead of unit less scale for Attack and release speeds.
In the current design those values would not make any sense at all. I have several ideas for a redesign, I want to try out some new idea that I have, if that does not sound good I'll check what others do.
Author:  hvz [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:01 am ]
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Hans, did you go to bed for just 3 hours? :o
Yeah some Jehovah's Witnesses just rang my door bell - I'll continue sleeping in a moment. (I should probably have gone to bed earlier :shock: ).
Author:  eldoradofm [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:10 am ]
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@eldoradfm: Could you check if the DC offset issue is indeed less bad when you use the phase linear HPF? That would at least confirm that it really _does_ have something to do with DC offset.

Edit: If I use *both* filters, I get 1.1% at 10 Hz, 0.7% at 5 Hz.
Yes with phase linear it's better.
Author:  hvz [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:14 am ]
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@eldoradfm: Could you check if the DC offset issue is indeed less bad when you use the phase linear HPF? That would at least confirm that it really _does_ have something to do with DC offset.

Edit: If I use *both* filters, I get 1.1% at 10 Hz, 0.7% at 5 Hz.
Yes with phase linear it's better.
Then the combination of the two will probably work best (select non phase linear, and check the new checkbox to ALSO enable the phase linear one). Reason; The phase linear filter is less strong, but the non-phase linear filter at the start already removes most of the low frequency content.
Author:  eldoradofm [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:31 am ]
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Ok i just finished reading the rest of the texts and i'm gonna try it now.
B.t.w. isn't it possible to remove non-phase linear HPF then if phase linear is better?
Or is phase linear still causing too much artifacts on lower latency settings?

EDIT: The check-box definitely helps to remove DC offset. I'll see if i can measure the differences again.
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