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Author:  Bojcha [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

Old-style protections' was off.. lol i did't saw that option.. Checking again ...
but Advanced Bass Distortion Protection was ON, ofcourse..

Author:  hvz [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

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Old-style protections' was off.. lol i did't saw that option.. Checking again ...
but Advanced Bass Distortion Protection was ON, ofcourse..
No that should be off now! The new filter should completely replace the old one.

Have you compared my output file against yours?

Author:  Bojcha [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

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Have you compared my output file against yours?
Yes, and this is not possible.. your recording is almost 100% voice distortion free :shock: Hows that ?!
I am still listening here and i still have distortions..
Can you check Rihanna (2nd track) from PFD mix?

Author:  hvz [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

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Have you compared my output file against yours?
Yes, and this is not possible.. your recording is almost 100% voice distortion free :shock: Hows that ?!
I am still listening here and i still have distortions..
Can you check Rihanna (2nd track) from PFD mix?
I'll just process and upload the whole mix thing. Please hold...

Just to check: You didn't use any weird quality or latency settings? I'm running at maximum quality and latency.

Author:  Bojcha [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

I always use maximum quality .. still listening and your recording is much cleaner :S

Author:  hvz [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

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I always use maximum quality .. still listening and your recording is much cleaner :S
Yeah. And I did use your preset:
1. I loaded it (Neodymium_Dynamic_1-1v4_FM_50us.sts)
2. I turned FM stereo and RDS coding and direct sound card access off
3. I moved the Smoothe slider to 10
4. I played the file.

Edit: Now uploading, will post the new links in a moment.

Author:  Bojcha [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

no no.. you have less bass and punch! That's why no distortion.
Some more protection is working for you but not here.

edit: im confused! lol

Author:  hvz [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

Here's the whole PFD with bass clipping set to 0.90 instead of 0.71
http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/70781656/file.html

Bass clipping at 0.71:
http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/13950218/file.html

BTW: It's not just the voices, _everything_ sounds a lot cleaner with this new filter. But the lost punch is an issue. So now I have 2 choises:
1. Only use this filter when I detect voice vibrations.
2. Try to improve the filter.

I'll try to go for #2 first: There is definitely room for improvement. If there is no bass at all, this new filter is still lowering the mids by about 0.6 dB, which is not needed at all.

Author:  phoenix [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

Something I don't fully understand - not specific to any beta release.
In AGC, if I have 'Combine Remove Remaining Peaks' enabled, and if channel separation is something substantially higher than the default 0.3, I still get stray voice shifting.
Isn't high channel separation ~75% a sane value for AGC?

Author:  hvz [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stereo Tool 6.10

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Something I don't fully understand - not specific to any beta release.
In AGC, if I have 'Combine Remove Remaining Peaks' enabled, and if channel separation is something substantially higher than the default 0.3, I still get stray voice shifting.
Isn't high channel separation ~75% a sane value for AGC?
Higher values means bigger differences between the two channels. 75% is pretty high - I would pick a much lower value (that's why the default value is lower).

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