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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:58 pm 
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Just ran a quick test using a modified J-type preset (thanks Bojcha!).

Using Beta 10, I seem to get a crash when changing the ASIO buffer size on the FM output. Strange. Even with the restart on crash enabled, it doesn't seem to recover. I haven't got anything in the c:\Temp directory either...

I will send some data to you via pm Hans, maybe that will help to identify the issue.
I've checked my code, and I clearly see that I first close the ASIO sound card and then release the ASIO buffer. This error appears to indicate that the ASIO buffer code is still being called after closing the sound cards. I just found that this might happen in a specific situation, the chance of it happening depends among others on driver timing and CPU speed and how many cores you have.

I think I have fixed it now. If my change fixes the crash then that confirms that this is what happens. Beside that I have also added crash protection to the buffer code, so instead of a hard crash it should now be handled gracefully.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:37 am 
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@2Sense: Please try if this version fixes your crash!
http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 45-011.exe


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:31 pm 

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@2Sense: Please try if this version fixes your crash!
http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 45-011.exe
I've only had a quick moment to try and recreate the crash using your latest beta (I was running it without listening to audio output).
So far, I've not been able to make this version crash by changing the buffer setting wildly. Hope that's the end of it! :)
Thanks for your quick response on this. (Amazing!)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:46 pm 

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Yes good job hans

Wait for the next official release in 7.50 to put it onair !


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:55 am 

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- Clipper protection must be checked again with current knowledge, to make more punchy bass kicks
I'd say the whole clipper system needs to be redesigned cause what you have running now tends to get really dirty really fast.
I think you should separate the bass clipper from the advanced clipper section and and also make a multiband clipper (a proper one). This way you'll be able to get louder and cleaner without putting to much strain on the final clipper.
If you work with substantially high MB Attacks (to get a punchy sound) you need to control the peaks with the Band limiters. Otherwise very high uncontrolled Peak Levels goes into the Clipper and causes distortion.
Just do it this way:
Turn up the MB Limiters at first to get no Action of them and turn down the Clipper drive until no Clipper Action occurs.
Then try to turn down the MB Attacks (together at first) playing a punchy song until you can hear (and see) that the Peaks are affected by the compressors. Then turn up again and stop at the Point where the Peaks are nearly not affected.
Now turn down the MB limiters until you can see (hardly hear) a Little gain reduction of them.
Now turn up the Clipper drive to get the desired Sound.
To get rid of IMD tweak the Bass Clip threshold (down until there is no IMD) vs. band1(+2?, depending on your MB band count/frequency settings) out and band1/2 limiter threshold (bass distortion vs. limiting).
Now Play a piano song to check and verify that there is absolutely no audible clipping.
Also a good way to get a clean Sound is to use the limiter (only the limiter, not the compressor) in the Singleband section.
Set its threshold to Limit the Clipper Action and the drive to control the limiter´s gain reduction. Both shouldn´t exceed 2dB.
Regards,
Robert


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