Hi Hans
Stereo Tool v9.35 Beta008 Stand Alone 64 Bit Windows 10 Pro 2004
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Still is 90 minutes later.
Regards
Rossco
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| Author: | hvz [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
Ok. It reproduces here. Strangely enough, ONLY if I point it to the DLL after running the installer, not when I point it to the same DLL in my build environment. To be continued... Edit: The problem appears to be caused by a bug in either FooBar2000 itself or in the bridge plugin. It first calls a function to initialize Stereo Tool (that's good), but it starts trying to push audio through Stereo Tool before it's initialized. And that causes crashes. I see it crash with older versions as well, when loading or unloading while playing audio. Best thing I can do is add a check so that when things haven't been initialized yet, it just passes the audio without doing anything with it. |
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| Author: | EliteData [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
oh, i really like the 4 band 'current' AGC, sweet ! thats a significant improvement ! |
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| Author: | near05 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
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oh, i really like the 4 band 'current' AGC, sweet !
Thanks for the advice! Without reading this info I would never have looked here. I thought I had overlooked something, but yes there are really 4 bands in the last version. I'll play with it on the weekend. Was there anything else changed at the AGC that I might have missed?
thats a significant improvement ! |
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| Author: | MrKlorox [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
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oh, i really like the 4 band 'current' AGC, sweet !
Thanks for the advice! Without reading this info I would never have looked here. I thought I had overlooked something, but yes there are really 4 bands in the last version. I'll play with it on the weekend. Was there anything else changed at the AGC that I might have missed?
thats a significant improvement ! My current AGC frequency settings are 46, 196, 827, 3506, but I don't know how happy I am with those yet. Maybe 28, 120, 510, 2164 would be better? My new TrueBass and BIYF settings are 28hz, 46hz, then 76. This sounds so so good to me. I really like the BIYF so far. Still figuring out the best non-frequency settings. Quote:
Best thing I can do is add a check so that when things haven't been initialized yet, it just passes the audio without doing anything with it.
That sounds totally reasonable and might have been what caused Reaper to go funky. I haven't been able to reproduce the Reaper crash.
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| Author: | near05 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
So I got a quick impression of the "extended" AGC. Congratulations on that. Because of the 4-bands there are much more possibilities to display. Now it also adapts quite well to the preceding Auto EQ. So both thumbs up for the development. But of course as always - a few details would still be quite nice, which e.g. Ariane Encore has. I quote here from the Ariane manual, which you can find here. From my point of view these are a few more points that would round it off nicely. Quote: Instantaneous Dynamic Range, or ‘IDR’ is the main setting to adjust the amount of
control action you wish your Ariane Encore to have. The IDR setting is the ‘size’ of the RMS energy window in the windowing-release system. As long as the short-term variations of the RMS energy in the audio remain within this range, the Ariane Encore will stop making any changes to the gain in that band. Quote:
GATE AND RTZ
The Gate threshold control determines the point below which the Ariane Encore will not seek to increase audio gain. Audio that falls above this threshold is considered valid, and fair game to be brought up toward operating level. The Gate adjustment can be set anywhere from a low of –35 dB below 0 dB nominal reference operating level, to as high as –15 dB below 0 dB, in one-dB steps. The higher the Gate threshold, the less any low level material will be boosted. In addition, there is a parameter called ‘RTZ time’. This stands for ‘return to zero’. When the audio energy in any band goes below and stays below the gate threshold for more than 10 seconds, the control circuitry slowly returns the gain of that band to zero. The time this takes is controlled by the RTZ Time parameter – the lower the number, the faster the return. This prevents the ‘rush-up’ of a quiet band, which could otherwise result in an increase in the level of unwanted background noise or intentionally very quiet programme material, such as that found in classical music, for example. Quote: MIX
The Mix controls for each band control the output levels after processing, in a range of +5 to –5 dB. These controls allow you to tailor your spectrum the way you like, or to compensate for another piece of equipment, if necessary. We normally recommend you keep these controls to ‘flat ‘ (0dB), and make your spectral manipulations elsewhere. Quote:
BAND TO BAND COUPLING
The flexibility of the Ariane Encore is enhanced by various coupling and restriction controls. The Low frequency band (B1) can be restricted from ever adding more gain than is userspecified, with respect to the dynamic gain of the Low Mid band (B2), using the preset|agc|xxx params|b21 coupling: (setting in dB) menu setting. Similarly, using the menu setting: preset|agc|xxx params|b34 coupling: (setting in dB) ...the high frequency band (B4) can be restricted from adding more gain than is userspecifed, with respect to the dynamic gain of the High Mid (B3) band. (b21 means ‘band 2 to 1’, and b34 means ‘band 3 to 4’. These parameters are duplicated within the ‘matrix params’, ‘stereo params’ and ‘dual mono params’ submenus – for clarity we’ve just put ‘xxx’ above). When enabled, the restriction controls make it impossible for the low and high bands to ever operate with more than a specified amount of gain beyond that of the adjacent band (note: they are always free to operate with less gain). Quote:
PROTECTION PEAK LIMITING
The Ariane Encore has a built-in lookahead limiter before its output for protection purposes. Quote:
CROSSOVERS
In any case my respect for the entrance to my criticism concerning the AGC. I am very happy that an adjustment has been made here.
In the menu ‘preset|xover’, the crossover frequencies between bands 1/2, 2/3 and 3/4 can be adjusted. We think the default values are the best, but your mileage may vary! In addition, this menu includes a high-pass filter. Since in FM broadcasting, audio below 50Hz is largely unwanted and unheard, you may choose to enable the high pass filter to remove audio below this, or below a choice of other low frequencies. |
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| Author: | EliteData [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
is it possible to put the dB 'window' adjustment back in the legacy AGC please ? |
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| Author: | livewireaus [ Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
Hi Hans Stereo Tool v9.35 Beta008 Stand Alone 64 Bit Windows 10 Pro 2004 Attachment: ST-935-BETA008-Exceptio-02082020.png [ 18.66 KiB | Viewed 6967 times ] Still is 90 minutes later. Regards Rossco |
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| Author: | wiele [ Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:18 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA | ||
When setting the AGC to 4 bands, it seems like the display of band 3 is not working. Sound is ok. Using Winamp plugin on Windows 10 *edit* found the problem, when switching in an existing preset from 1 or 2 to 4, the frequency of the new bands is set to 0. 
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| Author: | MrDonT [ Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA |
oioioi AGC 4 bands with alot of adjustments  me love, finaly I can play again, just wait for it... MrDonT 
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| Author: | Lynx_TWO [ Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:05 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.53 BETA | ||
This may not be the best place to post but since you are working on the beta, is it possible for the VST plugin to add the number of samples in latency to the end of the audio file before processing and then trim the same number of samples at the beginning of the file? Otherwise the waveform 'moves' within the file, and if you had a seamless transition to the next track, 4096 samples get cut off. Also, while you are at it would it be possible to increase the latency, if not in general, then based on the sample rate in order to maintain FFT bin resolution for higher-sampled files? So, for example, since the current highest latency is 4096 samples and it's based on processing 44.1Khz audio, then for 88.2Khz the latency should be 8192 samples Code: 44100 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR 128 samples 172.27 Hz 256 samples 86.13 Hz 512 samples 43.07 Hz 1024 samples 21.53 Hz 2048 samples 10.77 Hz 4096 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 1.35 Hz 32768 samples 0.67 Hz 65536 samples 0.34 Hz 48000 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 187.5 Hz 140 samples 171.43 Hz 256 samples 93.75 Hz 256 samples 93.75 Hz 279 samples 86.02 Hz 512 samples 46.88 Hz 512 samples 46.88 Hz 558 samples 43.01 Hz 1024 samples 23.44 Hz 1024 samples 23.44 Hz 1115 samples 21.52 Hz 2048 samples 11.72 Hz 2048 samples 11.72 Hz 2230 samples 10.76 Hz 4096 samples 5.86 Hz 4096 samples 5.86 Hz 4459 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 2.93 Hz 8192 samples 2.93 Hz 8917 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 1.46 Hz 16384 samples 1.46 Hz 17833 samples 1.35 Hz 32768 samples 0.73 Hz 32768 samples 0.73 Hz 35666 samples 0.67 Hz 65536 samples 0.37 Hz 65536 samples 0.37 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max[/list] 88200 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 344.53 Hz 256 samples 172.27 Hz 256 samples 172.27 Hz 256 samples 172.27 Hz 512 samples 86.13 Hz 512 samples 86.13 Hz 512 samples 86.13 Hz 1024 samples 43.07 Hz 1024 samples 43.07 Hz 1024 samples 43.07 Hz 2048 samples 21.53 Hz 2048 samples 21.53 Hz 2048 samples 21.53 Hz 4096 samples 10.77 Hz 4096 samples 10.77 Hz 4096 samples 10.77 Hz 8192 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 5.38 Hz 16384 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 2.69 Hz 32768 samples 1.35 Hz 32768 samples 1.35 Hz 32768 samples 1.35 Hz 65536 samples 0.67 Hz 65536 samples 0.67 Hz 65536 samples 0.67 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 96000 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 375 Hz 279 samples 172.04 Hz 512 samples 93.75 Hz 256 samples 187.5 Hz 558 samples 86.02 Hz 1024 samples 46.88 Hz 512 samples 93.75 Hz 1115 samples 43.05 Hz 2048 samples 23.44 Hz 1024 samples 46.88 Hz 2230 samples 21.52 Hz 4096 samples 11.72 Hz 2048 samples 23.44 Hz 4459 samples 10.76 Hz 8192 samples 5.86 Hz 4096 samples 11.72 Hz 8917 samples 5.38 Hz 16384 samples 2.93 Hz 8192 samples 5.86 Hz 17833 samples 2.69 Hz 32768 samples 1.46 Hz 16384 samples 2.93 Hz 35666 samples 1.35 Hz 65536 samples 0.73 Hz 32768 samples 1.46 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 65536 samples 0.73 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 176400 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 689.06 Hz 512 samples 172.27 Hz 512 samples 172.27 Hz 256 samples 344.53 Hz 1024 samples 86.13 Hz 1024 samples 86.13 Hz 512 samples 172.27 Hz 2048 samples 43.07 Hz 2048 samples 43.07 Hz 1024 samples 86.13 Hz 4096 samples 21.53 Hz 4096 samples 21.53 Hz 2048 samples 43.07 Hz 8192 samples 10.77 Hz 8192 samples 10.77 Hz 4096 samples 21.53 Hz 16384 samples 5.38 Hz 16384 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 10.77 Hz 32768 samples 2.69 Hz 32768 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 5.38 Hz 65536 samples 1.35 Hz 65536 samples 1.35 Hz 32768 samples 2.69 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 65536 samples 1.35 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 192000 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 750 Hz 558 samples 172.04 Hz 1024 samples 93.75 Hz 256 samples 375 Hz 1115 samples 86.1 Hz 2048 samples 46.88 Hz 512 samples 187.5 Hz 2230 samples 43.05 Hz 4096 samples 23.44 Hz 1024 samples 93.75 Hz 4459 samples 21.53 Hz 8192 samples 11.72 Hz 2048 samples 46.88 Hz 8917 samples 10.77 Hz 16384 samples 5.86 Hz 4096 samples 23.44 Hz 17833 samples 5.38 Hz 32768 samples 2.93 Hz 8192 samples 11.72 Hz 35666 samples 2.69 Hz 65536 samples 1.46 Hz 16384 samples 5.86 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 32768 samples 2.93 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 65536 samples 1.46 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 352800 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 1378.13 Hz 1024 samples 172.27 Hz 1024 samples 172.27 Hz 256 samples 689.06 Hz 2048 samples 86.13 Hz 2048 samples 86.13 Hz 512 samples 344.53 Hz 4096 samples 43.07 Hz 4096 samples 43.07 Hz 1024 samples 172.27 Hz 8192 samples 21.53 Hz 8192 samples 21.53 Hz 2048 samples 86.13 Hz 16384 samples 10.77 Hz 16384 samples 10.77 Hz 4096 samples 43.07 Hz 32768 samples 5.38 Hz 32768 samples 5.38 Hz 8192 samples 21.53 Hz 65536 samples 2.69 Hz 65536 samples 2.69 Hz 16384 samples 10.77 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 32768 samples 5.38 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 65536 samples 2.69 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 384000 Sample Rate Orig. FFT size Orig. FR Cor. FFT size Cor. FR FFT rnd ^2 rnd^2 FR 128 samples 1500 Hz 1115 samples 172.2 Hz 2048 samples 93.75 Hz 256 samples 750 Hz 2230 samples 86.1 Hz 4096 samples 46.88 Hz 512 samples 375 Hz 4459 samples 43.06 Hz 8192 samples 23.44 Hz 1024 samples 187.5 Hz 8917 samples 21.53 Hz 16384 samples 11.72 Hz 2048 samples 93.75 Hz 17833 samples 10.77 Hz 32768 samples 5.86 Hz 4096 samples 46.88 Hz 35666 samples 5.38 Hz 65536 samples 2.93 Hz 8192 samples 23.44 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 16384 samples 11.72 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 32768 samples 5.86 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max 65536 samples 2.93 Hz FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set Max FFT > Set MaxI have also attached an excel spreadsheet. Thanks!
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