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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:16 pm 
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is it normal to keep getting...( this sound is processed by stereo tool..go to stereotool.com for information. ).. every 5 mins or so when de-clipper is on ?
this is only when de-clipper is on as far as i can tell.

and all-so when I turn on de-clipping it says unregistered options in use. ??
(and I have a registered copy)

but I do like the new de-clipping filter sounds good.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:33 pm 
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Thank you hans for the new beta ;)

Vst version run good :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:35 pm 
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is it normal to keep getting...( this sound is processed by stereo tool..go to stereotool.com for information. ).. every 5 mins or so when de-clipper is on ?
this is only when de-clipper is on as far as i can tell.

and all-so when I turn on de-clipping it says unregistered options in use. ??
(and I have a registered copy)

but I do like the new de-clipping filter sounds good.
Hi DUB<^>STEP,
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- Declipping filter added. Note: If you enable this filter, you'll get a 'This sound is processed by Stereo Tool' played over it every 60 seconds! The reason for this is that I want to release this filter as a new stand alone application as well, since it really seems to outperform all the well-known declipping filters (and on top of that it has a low latency!). I still have to decide how to put this into Stereo Tool.
I need to find a way to enable this for existing users, but not for unregistered users. And to be able to sell it separately later.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:12 pm 
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Version with tilt correction is coming up. Bojcha: The Nelly Furtado track that you posted in the 'requested features' thread can be fixed using the following settings (approximately, this was a quick check that gave improved results, though nowhere close to perfect):

- First slider: 22000
- 3rd slider (tilt): +10 degrees
- 4th slider: 20000 (tilted signal is considered to be clipped if it gets above this level)

I know the tilt slider effect isn't displayed yet, so that makes it a bit difficult to configure... Same for histogram (both tilted and not tilted), max level overshoots etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:22 pm 
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Nice working.. it needs more fine tuning and maybe better detection, like Tilt error correction.
Maybe more something like punch for those peeks .. ?
But anyway very good start and base. ...

edit: Lol, i listened new filter last 10 minutes and made post .. lol Tilt.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:58 pm 
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- I am Checking Alejanro.. clip there has good tilt, but recover of this peeks are not "constant" always .. and i can't make adjustment to make every peek recovered always.

- On tilt error detection i was mean 'auto" detection.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:59 pm 
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Quote:
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is it normal to keep getting...( this sound is processed by stereo tool..go to stereotool.com for information. ).. every 5 mins or so when de-clipper is on ?
this is only when de-clipper is on as far as i can tell.

and all-so when I turn on de-clipping it says unregistered options in use. ??
(and I have a registered copy)

but I do like the new de-clipping filter sounds good.
Hi DUB<^>STEP,
Quote:
- Declipping filter added. Note: If you enable this filter, you'll get a 'This sound is processed by Stereo Tool' played over it every 60 seconds! The reason for this is that I want to release this filter as a new stand alone application as well, since it really seems to outperform all the well-known declipping filters (and on top of that it has a low latency!). I still have to decide how to put this into Stereo Tool.
I need to find a way to enable this for existing users, but not for unregistered users. And to be able to sell it separately later.

thanks for the info on that hans.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:21 pm 
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- I am Checking Alejanro.. clip there has good tilt, but recover of this peeks are not "constant" always .. and i can't make adjustment to make every peek recovered always.
That track isn't really clipped - there is no clipping distortion etc. Also, if you look at the waveform and consider the clipped filters as 'missing' you wouldn't be tempted to draw a big spike. So this filter won't fix that (I'm working on something that might, but that's not finished yet).

This declipping filter ONLY fixes HARD clipping.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:23 pm 
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BETA620-019:

- Declipping tilt correction added.
- 'This sound is processed by Stereo Tool' gone for registered versions.

Notes from previous BETA:
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Note that declipping uses a lot of CPU processing power (I'll make that configurable later).

The filter can be switched on or off at the right of the input level slider.

The 'maximum peak restore' slider does not work yet (dunny why, will check).

IMPORTANT: Set the 'clipping detection' level low enough such that ALL the clipped samples are recognized as being clipped (for a CD that's easy, 32767 should suffice, but for an MP3 you'll need to set it a bit - even upto 10%! - lower).

Hint: You can see that the declipping filter is working by comparing the input and output levels with NO other processing enabled.

IMPORTANT: Declipping can currently NOT be combined with non-phase linear highpass filtering!!!

Samples that are incorrectly seen as not-clipped (level set too high) can have a big effect on the audio.
Samples that are incorrectly seen as clipped (lever set too low) make things harder because basically Stereo Tool must treat them as if they are clipped at the selected level. So basically you add extra clipping before removing it.

Later I'll add some code for dynamic clipping detection. (Something with a histogram I guess).

Winamp DSP plugin: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 20-019.exe
Stand alone version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 20-019.exe
VST version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 20-019.dll
VST version (No SSE2): http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 20-019.dll
Command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 20-019.exe
Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... ETA620-019 NOT AVAILABLE
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... ETA620-019 NOT AVAILABLE

TODO:
- Fix loading changed multiband frequencies
- Add buffer and filter for SCA output (SCA1 ok, SCA2 ok)
- Finish AGC improvement - make mono value configurable (replace checkbox by slider) 1 hour --> NO, not needed - anything else needed? -> NO
- Fix Punch
- Check what to do with new filters (such as bass AGC) - keep them, remove them, change them? --> KEEP
- Save new BASS_AGC setting in VST mode
- Loudness: Annoying cracking sound in bass. Slightly present in 5.00, worse in 6.00, maybe even worse in 6.10. Only when bass is too loud. Much worse than in Final Limiter (at same input level!) - so this clearly indicates a bug. Most likely cause: The filter that was added to remove bass artifacts....... :shock: - No, it's the louder bass. But it can be fixed by changing some settings. Default settings updated, and behavior for 'not Very strict' improved. Also Deep bass boost and Very deep bass protection are enabled for latency 512 now.
- Finish declipping filter.
- Add highpass filter for stereo signal (will cause a lot of extra latency!)
- Update presets? (BASS_AGC etc.)
- Change version number 1 hour
- Release 1 hour


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 6.10
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm 
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- I am Checking Alejanro.. clip there has good tilt, but recover of this peeks are not "constant" always .. and i can't make adjustment to make every peek recovered always.
That track isn't really clipped - there is no clipping distortion etc. Also, if you look at the waveform and consider the clipped filters as 'missing' you wouldn't be tempted to draw a big spike. So this filter won't fix that (I'm working on something that might, but that's not finished yet).
This declipping filter ONLY fixes HARD clipping.
Ah .ok .. i notice few more things:
- Voices are recovered veru good and peeks from recovered voices are high, more then from mid-lows and lows.
- Decliping is very depend of Input level! So, "internal" Double AGCing may fix this. Double: fiist on input and second on output but Vice versa.. to maintain always same level.. internal: inside only for filter functioning.


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