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 Post subject: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:52 am 

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Winamp dsp ST:
Does the composite clipper become enabled when selecting: Send To Winamp 'De-emphasized version of FM output'? Since it is disabled when set to 'Separately processed de-emphasized left/right FM output'.


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:48 am 
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It is enabled in the output to Winamp, which means that if you want to use that signal to feed an external stereo and RDS coder, that's not a good idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:28 pm 

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Noted. Thanks for the clarification :)


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:56 am 

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Also does the composite clipper become disabled during the following settings?
-stereo encoder is disabled
-pre emphasize output is disabled
-pre emphasis is ENABLED
-'send to Winamp' is set to either 'silence' or 'nothing'


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:20 pm 
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Maybe it's easier if you say what you want to do :)

Also, if the composite clipper is disabled you can see that because:
1. The Composite Clipper checkbox is disabled
2. Output won't be clipped as tightly.

I think in the situation that you describe it's indeed disabled, it makes little sense to use composite clipping without using stereo coding.


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:51 am 

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Winamp dsp/kernel output

Basically to me, the highs sounds slightly muffled if the composite clipper is enabled.


Last edited by djtek184 on Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:41 am, edited 3 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:53 am 
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Hm that's very strange. Highs should be louder, there's about 2-3 dB more headroom for peaks.

Are you listening on FM?

Edit: Winamp DSP output? Unless your source material is 176.4 or 192 kHz, the composite clipper won't work... you need to enable the FM sound card support.


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:05 am 

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Using all wav files: ST 7.51/Unvail Hanz mod preset/fm75
Fm soundcard on
Pre emphasis on
Pre emphasis output off
Stereo encoder off
Send to winamp: de emphasized fm version(composite clipper enabled)
Mpx volume & volume 2 are disabled(-.99) using breakaway pipeline as main volume control

With the above settings:
1st attempt Results are louder, but the highs seems slightly buried. Average listener will probably not notice.

2nd attempt with similar settings but composite clipper is disabled. And send to winamp is set to: silence/nothing
Results are not as loud but the highs sounds better(unmuffled).


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:45 pm 

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Update:

Installed beta 7.52 v009 and the issue seems to be fixed. With the composite clipper enabled, the highs now sounds fuller and unmuffled. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Composite clipper
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:03 pm 
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Hm, and you were really using 7.51 before? Strange... but if it´s fixed, great :)


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