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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:27 pm 
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Phoenix i am using standalone, really don't know for VST...
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Please try, and tall me is it working for you. Try standalone too...


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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:42 pm 
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Phoenix i am using standalone, really don't know for VST...
Please try, and tall me is it working for you. Try standalone too...
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No Effect. Everything's the same...
Can you check the output from Standalone in an oscilloscope?
It will take a hell lot of arrangement of VAC chains to accomplish on my system...so pretty troublesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:58 pm 
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Checked... as you can see exactly 800Hz

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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:12 am 
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Yes, confirmed working in Standalone version...but not in VST.
Guess I'll have to defer my work for now. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:29 am 
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It's now funny to me, because i know that Michi is using VST...


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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:09 am 
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The VST version *HAS* no .ini file. (Well it has something for text-based entries, but all other values are taken from the VST host). It should work if you load a .STS file with these changed settings.


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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:12 am 
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It's now funny to me, because i know that Michi is using VST...
1. I love you too, Bojcha.

2. It's now funny to me, because I do not want to use less bands.
I want more.

The good about VST version is, that we are talking not about realtime processing, so latency is something I don't have to care about at all.

When my new computer arrives I can use a cascade (serial connection)
of twenty or even more Stereo Tool VST instances (10 MB bands x 20, etc.)
and split the whole frequency spectrum (if Hans would add an extra option to define the frequency range of a band independant of the next and the previous band in the neighbourhood).

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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:10 pm 
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lol
we just wanted to know does other freqs. for mb works for VST, not just less or more bands.


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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:17 pm 
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What it looks like is irrespective of what version(Standalone, VST, DSP) is being used, some triggering is needed. In case of Standalone, as Bojcha suggested, changing Sampling rate or restarting Soundcard Confg does the trick. Now, for VST and DSP versions, changing latencies does the job. So now center frequencies have changed precisely as per the sts confg.
So, michi cheer up!

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 Post subject: Re: Tweaking Equalizer
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:16 am 
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....some triggering is needed. In case of Standalone, as Bojcha suggested, changing Sampling rate or restarting Soundcard Confg does the trick. Now, for VST and DSP versions, changing latencies does the job. So now center frequencies have changed precisely as per the sts confg.
Oh, my God ! :o :shock:

Normally I have not done any signal analyzing of the frequency spectrum while my experiments with different center frequencies in STS in the past.
So I have compared (and maybe you too ?) apples with oranges, because the different center frequencies from STS were not applied under normal circumstances (loading different STS containing different center frequencies) - only the GUI changed ( :arrow: false positive) !

My seemingly crappy TranS-EnhanCe preset used modified center frequencies.
But normally (without randomly changed latency settings) only the GUI shows
the different frequencies, but actually they were not applied for the audio processing.
And to know that I used very extreme EQ boosts (...+ 19.93 dB...) with this preset in multiband now explains, why it sounds the way it sounds (I probably adjusted settings sometimes with correctly applied center frequencies and sometimes without correctly applied center frequencies). :oops:

I will rebuild it from scratch.

Please, Hans change the STS loading behaviour (so that this manually triggering to activate different center frequencies is not necessary) !

Maybe it is also possible to make this deactivation of MB bands in STS a little bit more elegant ?

Bojcha's STS modifications work somehow (in contrast to the mod settings Hans had described before), but the look of GUI for MB bands and the shown values for the two deactivated bands is very odd and irrating.


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