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Some things my young Gen-Z ears have caught with the new compressor in testing:
- On Adaptive Bass Monster, I heard levels adjusting/pumping just slightly enough to notice during the middle of a chorus in a song.
- Adaptive Bass Monster: I noticed that the levels seem to just slightly duck down a bit on choruses/loud parts, but recover and seem a bit louder during the verses/quieter parts.
- Adaptive Bass Monster: Choruses/loud parts of songs seem to lose a bit dynamics and thin out a bit.
- Adaptive Bass Monster: Voice, especially female voices can be extremely harsh sounding. Not as much on male voice. But that probably should be looked into. Reverb may have something to do with it in the dense preset of A.B.M., but I’m not totally sure.
We have worked on improving the behavior on several of these in the last days; I have visited a local station that was using the Adaptive Bass Monster Dense preset and later spent several hours with someone who sets up lots of stations and we tried to fix these effects. I apparently didn't really have songs where this caused issues in my test set; I do now.
Here are a few changes that we made:
- We slowed down the attack to 750. So that's a lot slower, which helps against short loud sounds that caused some ducking.
- Added gating on the MB,
- Set Level drop compensation more aggressively, so it's pulling up soft pieces much more. This helps not only when a new song starts, but it also causes the level to be increased faster after a loud chorus.
- Increased Window, but made it work less strongly on release. While making the window act stronger on release sounds nice, it slows down recovery after loud sounds.
- Using clipping and limiting now, and changed the limiter types for some of the bands.
- Reduced band linking, which tends to make ducking problems much worse.
- Increased 'Dense audio level boost' by 1 dB, this makes (based on test) very loud choruses about 0.5-0.8 dB louder.
The slower attack greatly reduces the level effects on loud choruses. The limiting and clipping removes the start of something loud which makes everything sound much "tighter" and more controlled, although it will cause some loss of punch so we might need to tweak the settings further.
Here's the resulting preset. Please note this this is work in progress; we spent some time on it last week but weren't finished yet.
Oscar_20240126.sts
Ducking on chorus seems to be far less of an issue when running in peak mode instead of RMS mode. I'm planning to look into that tomorrow. But just switching the detection from RMS to Peak might help quite a bit. Of course that does come at a cost in consistency.
Hans do we need the latest 10.22 beta to run this preset or it works just as good with the latest release 10.21?