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 Post subject: Stereo Tool 10.21 BETA
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:02 am 
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Hi all,

Latest version - Beta 10.21-007 (Jan 20 2024)

Downloads
Changes/bugfixes
  • Copied Declipper presets to new preset mechanism for new Declipper release (they aren't very good though.
  • Band mix in MB1/2 should not be advanced.
  • Some categories are being skipped in quick scan (check SST as well) -> Not needed
  • Optimized preset scanning/loading (most importantly during startup).
  • Removed latency from common preset info data (wasn't used anyway).
  • Removed Full Screen/Height modes from Generic plugin

Issues reported from 10.10 release:
  • Update presets
  • LATER VST skin bar color issue

TODO's
  • Some complaint about RDS in 10.20, viewtopic.php?p=75314
  • .st.gui_override does not survive firmware updates in SD card image; needs to look in root directory.
  • AES67: If a LiveWire port is selected under "Device" but nothing is detected there, that port number overwrites the active port field on preset loading. The pulldown itself cannot be changed if nothing is detected.
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  • Bojcha's UTF8 file in RDS
  • Does Blue Monday with new compressor get better if I slow down reference release?
  • AGC: Most likely we'll also need to change the release behavior compared to the compressors.
  • AGC: Bojcha: Some other stuf really needed, - startup level - return to platform - gate after agc (please) - some sort of compressor or some protection for bursts like on old AGC - why freeze is not fully freeze (there is delay)
  • MicroMPX: Run as service?
  • Update clipper, optimize for new compressor
  • Preset exporting: Auto-fill file name.
  • Web interface: 2nd meter bar color is always orange, but must be less bright version of main color for input gain, MPX out etc. - Waiting for web interface update
  • Loading a Stereo Tool preset on PiMP also sets things like whitelist, blocking access.
  • Make RDS/RDBS selectable or something, independent of 50/75 us pre-emhpasis.
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  • New compressor: Matrix mode: Limiters work on L+R and L-R, instead of L and R. That's probably bad.
  • MicroMPX: Allow RDS settings in library?
  • PEQ in MicroMPX FM output?
  • VMware licensing 2w
  • M. mails! + Contract
  • Sensitivity scrolling vs sliding
  • MicroMPX: Check pilot cleanness in decoder if pilot frequency is slightly off (19005 Hz).
  • Add capture output soundcard??? (Wasapi loopback?)
  • Web interface: MicroMPX decoder display "ports" field gets too small after switching to another tab and then back, with a relatively small window. download/file.php?id=5827
  • Also, I notice when adjusting the buffer, there's no way to adjust by 1ms. There's 0.1ms (CTRL), 10ms (SHIFT), but it doesn't go by 1ms when no modifier is held. It would also be very handy to have the Synchronize with HD slider in between the HD and FM output cells instead of hidden in the More FM Output Settings.
  • Reset skin, and other things (basically anything that can be loaded?)
  • Pi: Make network settings changeable via web interface.
  • Startup delay on MicroMPX?
  • Upload SD card image updater somewhere
  • Update LiquidSoap links
  • mndxer1049: Better Natural Dynamics section with WB dynamic detection
  • mndxer1049: A very transparent, C-Level like new AGC design
  • mndxer1049: Auto Stereo Pilot
  • mndxer1049: Maybe: A button for putting all CPU settings at the maximum value and turning on all CPU intensive settings that only improve audio, but take quite a bit of CPU load. (ex. sliders like ‘Quality (increases CPU load)’ under DeClipper restoration, “Strictness (CPU)” and “Leif’s highs gap protection stages (CPU)’ under Clipper just to name a few of these ”CPU sliders” I’m referencing.)
  • Display bug in MPX display (weird spectrum glitches that occur occasionally)
  • Add streaming output to VST version?
  • In the audio input section I'd like to see options for speakers to be included without having the need to use virtual cables to route. I was thinking something similar to Rocket Broadcaster. There's input for mic and separate application source.
  • MicroMPX decoder: High frequency tilt correction is performed BEFORE data is collected for display, looks like overshoots.
  • Auto pilot
  • Redesign ND dynamics detection
  • Maybe add some frequency display to MPX display. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=33720
  • Remove 45 degrees angle in gonio meters viewtopic.php?f=16&t=33699
  • Add numeric displays to ITU and MPX levels in GUI viewtopic.php?f=16&t=33686
  • Insert/delete bands in multiband compressor, instead of (like now) just having to add/remove the last one when the number of bands changes.



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  • Non-phase linear: For example https://github.com/nxsEdson/Butterworth ... rworth.cpp
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  • gStreamer AES67?
  • RDS encoder: Add support for UTF8 input for characters like æ ø å
  • STXtreme errors when reusing sound card
  • STXtreme set shared sample rate (instances can set different sample rates)
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  • Azimuth affects highs!!
  • Password change requires entering same password 3x first time
  • Password protection broken display after logout/change
  • Preset load page must be smaller for STXtreme
  • Cursor keys in web interface
  • Mac: VST3 GUI.
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  • Ratio slider smarter steps (1.1, 1.2 etc) - MattL
  • Meters: add separate FM/HD output level displays.
  • New compressor and matrix mode?
  • Add 0.05 precision to parametric EQ and attack/release multipliers
  • RDS: Add settings for how long texts are shown or how fast to scroll for UECP inputs.
  • AES67 generic mode: Let people enter IP address directly.
  • Add PWarnMini for Diff
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  • MicroMPX: Show temperature
  • MicroMPX: Show status per incoming port
  • Win10 scheduler appears to ignore ideal CPU cores since last (few) update(s)
  • Links: ID_GOTO must be a PLink that points somewhere.
  • Dynamic speeds: License detection only works after audio has been running, that's not ok.
  • When audio has run after a settings change, trigger a parsetChanged
  • Time offset on STXtreme, for RDS (also for ClockTime!)
  • New GUI: Support smaller monitors (smaller default size, especially for VST). Contact near05.
  • Export presets from web interface needs filtering, just like from native (so the code is there! Just reuse CopyPresetOm*).
  • Mac: VST2 sizes
  • Mac: gavinmcgrath: "Intel MacOS 11.7.3 in Wavelab 11.1: Blank screen." viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33391&p=73407#p73407
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  • Stand alone RDS decoder
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  • GUI: Check RGBLUT_Combine2 performance
  • CPU usage of REFRESH_ENABLED is high, maybe use local array.
  • PDcWave delay not set
  • Flashing peq/mb eq bars in GUI
  • Software update requires Admin rights
  • WatchCat: Keep track of when files have been processed and ignore them, but don't move them. (DropBox)
  • WatchCat: Can we include ffmpeg and lame?
  • Pens
  • Add latency wizard?
  • setFaultyValue for text boxes for wrong passwords for example - check with Tom how to use
  • Can we enable FM Calibration in "Ignore high frequencies" mode? Not easily
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  • Add check for running ST multiple times; make switchable if we want to allow it or ask if you really want to start if it already runs or something.
  • Matt: Pre-emphasize highs slider needs to get a clearer description! Something with avoid overshoots. Basically a sidechain EQ. "Add highs to sidechain".
  • Matt: UECP must be more easily accessible, too deep now.
  • Matt: FM+AM
  • Check EQMB_SCOPES
  • New I/O framework: Add extra latency to plugin input so the input 2 to LQLL can be instantaneous.
  • Check Bojcha's good bass HPF settings (18200 Hz, ignore high frequencies, 48 kHz, 35 Hz HPF)
  • libVLC with FDK???


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Latest version - Beta 10.21-006 (Jan 19 2024)

Downloads
Changes/bugfixes
  • MicroMPX: Set password, then turn it off crashes.
  • Console version was reading from wrong settings file by default (~/stereo_tool instead of ~/.stereo_tool.rc on Linux/Mac)
  • SST licensing was broken, possibly other products as well
  • SST misbehaves, always tries to apply SSB mode and if you turn composite clipper off, is mono. See WhatsApp Jeroen.
  • Optimized scanning of built-in presets
  • Language causes crashes in Debian, see SysERR message. Hopefully fixed, waiting for feedback.
  • mAirList issues viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33784 -> Return an empty preset list; right now our API broke.
  • mAirList general stability issues -> Fixed issues on our end since version 10.00, and fixes in mAirList (7.6+) as well; make sure to update mAirList.
  • Remaining rewrite issues (missing load/save buttons)
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Latest version - Beta 10.21-001 (Jan 10 2024)

Downloads
Changes/bugfixes
  • MicroMPX: There was still an issue that could *sometimes* cause dropouts at 6h12m46s intervals. Should be fully fixed now; waiting for test results
  • Adaptive mode in AGC reinstated, but with different (less aggressivve) attack behavior.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:30 pm 

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Bug with liquidsoap:

If the .sts file contains the language settings, liquidsoap crashes.
If I delete the "Language=....." line from the .sts file, liquidsoap starts fine.
The affected version is 10.20, but most likely the current beta is also affected.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:24 pm 
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Bug with liquidsoap:

If the .sts file contains the language settings, liquidsoap crashes.
If I delete the "Language=....." line from the .sts file, liquidsoap starts fine.
The affected version is 10.20, but most likely the current beta is also affected.
I don't know if it's relevant, but which language was selected?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:06 pm 

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Bug with liquidsoap:

If the .sts file contains the language settings, liquidsoap crashes.
If I delete the "Language=....." line from the .sts file, liquidsoap starts fine.
The affected version is 10.20, but most likely the current beta is also affected.
I don't know if it's relevant, but which language was selected?
Hungarian language is selected. However, a crash occurs if any language is selected. Even if I set a non-existent language manually in the sts file. If there is nothing after Language= it crashes too. I have to completely delete the Language line to make it work.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:55 pm 
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Bug with liquidsoap:

If the .sts file contains the language settings, liquidsoap crashes.
If I delete the "Language=....." line from the .sts file, liquidsoap starts fine.
The affected version is 10.20, but most likely the current beta is also affected.
I don't know if it's relevant, but which language was selected?
Hungarian language is selected. However, a crash occurs if any language is selected. Even if I set a non-existent language manually in the sts file. If there is nothing after Language= it crashes too. I have to completely delete the Language line to make it work.
What OS are you using? Since it could be a Linux/Windows/Mac-specific issue.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:53 pm 

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Don’t know if this is the place, but I have a recommendation/request: Would like to see a “reference level” slider in Stereo Tool that would tell the system what levels to expect for those using LUFS, RMS or peak level normalization on their audio files beforehand. (I believe this is how Orban Optimod does it) Maybe have a check box button that says “files coming into processor are pre normalized” and then a dropdown box where you can select between what type of normalization is used (like RMS, LUFS, or peak level) and a level slider that you can match to what level using so the system knows exactly what to expect from the input. So if I’m using -23 LUFS, I would select “LUFS” and set the slider to -23. Or if I’m using -6dB peak level, I would select “Peak level” and slide the slider to -6. I understand that with audio processors, especially with the new adaptive compressor in ST, have a wide range of acceptable levels that work just fine, but in order to take additional strain off of the processor, limit artifacts, and be right within your audio sweet spot, I could see this being beneficial.

Yes, I’m OCD about my levels — everyone who knows me knows this to be true. I just want to ensure the absolute best quality for my listeners. So I strongly hope this concept or something similar is considered.

Thanks,
MNDXer1049.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:47 am 
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Don’t know if this is the place, but I have a recommendation/request: Would like to see a “reference level” slider in Stereo Tool that would tell the system what levels to expect for those using LUFS, RMS or peak level normalization on their audio files beforehand. (I believe this is how Orban Optimod does it) Maybe have a check box button that says “files coming into processor are pre normalized” and then a dropdown box where you can select between what type of normalization is used (like RMS, LUFS, or peak level) and a level slider that you can match to what level using so the system knows exactly what to expect from the input. So if I’m using -23 LUFS, I would select “LUFS” and set the slider to -23. Or if I’m using -6dB peak level, I would select “Peak level” and slide the slider to -6. I understand that with audio processors, especially with the new adaptive compressor in ST, have a wide range of acceptable levels that work just fine, but in order to take additional strain off of the processor, limit artifacts, and be right within your audio sweet spot, I could see this being beneficial.

Yes, I’m OCD about my levels — everyone who knows me knows this to be true. I just want to ensure the absolute best quality for my listeners. So I strongly hope this concept or something similar is considered.

Thanks,
MNDXer1049.
Its already there, since version 0. Called Pre-Amplifier. It's very simple, you load preset, you normalized files, you know on what level you normalized, let's say -23lufs., then just rise that slider by 23dB.
But there is better way. If you want perfectly to be on input, and so for processing, and you play ONLY normalized files, set that slider where AGC will have maximum 1-3dB range (showing 1-3 bars from top) on loudest parts in track(s).

Here RB plays all files at -23LUFS. In this preset/case i tuned pre-amp so AGC working very little. Btw, normalization is not so ideal thing and AGC is there more like level protection.
https://i.imgur.com/1r8BsXb.png

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:51 am 

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I don't know if it's relevant, but which language was selected?
Hungarian language is selected. However, a crash occurs if any language is selected. Even if I set a non-existent language manually in the sts file. If there is nothing after Language= it crashes too. I have to completely delete the Language line to make it work.
What OS are you using? Since it could be a Linux/Windows/Mac-specific issue.
I tested it under Debian 10 64bit and 11 64bit.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:14 pm 
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Hungarian language is selected. However, a crash occurs if any language is selected. Even if I set a non-existent language manually in the sts file. If there is nothing after Language= it crashes too. I have to completely delete the Language line to make it work.
What OS are you using? Since it could be a Linux/Windows/Mac-specific issue.
I tested it under Debian 10 64bit and 11 64bit.
On my end it doesn't appear to crash, but it suddenly closes. Looking into it now; I expect to have a solution later tonight (and then a new binary tomorrow).

Edit: Not sure what's going on... In debug mode everything works. Re-testing everything now.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:47 pm 

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Don’t know if this is the place, but I have a recommendation/request: Would like to see a “reference level” slider in Stereo Tool that would tell the system what levels to expect for those using LUFS, RMS or peak level normalization on their audio files beforehand. (I believe this is how Orban Optimod does it) Maybe have a check box button that says “files coming into processor are pre normalized” and then a dropdown box where you can select between what type of normalization is used (like RMS, LUFS, or peak level) and a level slider that you can match to what level using so the system knows exactly what to expect from the input. So if I’m using -23 LUFS, I would select “LUFS” and set the slider to -23. Or if I’m using -6dB peak level, I would select “Peak level” and slide the slider to -6. I understand that with audio processors, especially with the new adaptive compressor in ST, have a wide range of acceptable levels that work just fine, but in order to take additional strain off of the processor, limit artifacts, and be right within your audio sweet spot, I could see this being beneficial.

Yes, I’m OCD about my levels — everyone who knows me knows this to be true. I just want to ensure the absolute best quality for my listeners. So I strongly hope this concept or something similar is considered.

Thanks,
MNDXer1049.
Its already there, since version 0. Called Pre-Amplifier. It's very simple, you load preset, you normalized files, you know on what level you normalized, let's say -23lufs., then just rise that slider by 23dB.
But there is better way. If you want perfectly to be on input, and so for processing, and you play ONLY normalized files, set that slider where AGC will have maximum 1-3dB range (showing 1-3 bars from top) on loudest parts in track(s).

Here RB plays all files at -23LUFS. In this preset/case i tuned pre-amp so AGC working very little. Btw, normalization is not so ideal thing and AGC is there more like level protection.
https://i.imgur.com/1r8BsXb.png
Thanks for the advice, Bojcha! I appreciate it.


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