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Author: | MrKlorox [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
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The whole "just add a setting" thing is what we're trying to resolve.
Sorry, I'm trying hard to avoid using those terms while attempting to provide an idea for a solution. I know it's not easy and I never tried to imply it was. Where I'm from, complaining about something without having an idea on how to fix it is looked down upon. I'm still not completely clear on what this means. Are you saying the intent is to avoid additional settings in the UI? |
Author: | t.j.evers [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
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Sorry, I'm trying hard to avoid using those terms while attempting to provide an idea for a solution. I know it's not easy and I never tried to imply it was. Where I'm from, complaining about something without having an idea on how to fix it is looked down upon.
We're in the business of software development: we're used to, nay, relying on people complaining without them having a clue what's actually going on or how to fix it Seriously though, please keep throwing any and all issues at us. It's how we improve. You being incredibly constructive is a nice bonus. Quote:
Are you saying the intent is to avoid additional settings in the UI?
That's exactly what I'm saying. A huge problem of the old GUI is that it was so cluttered.The long-term idea for the meter bar is to be able to fold and unfold it, maybe even to select which meters you want it to show on a per-page basis... But we need context menus for that. The last thing we want is to have to add another settings menu on some page with a bucket of checkboxes, overwhelming people. |
Author: | weskeene [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
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Sorry, I'm trying hard to avoid using those terms while attempting to provide an idea for a solution. I know it's not easy and I never tried to imply it was. Where I'm from, complaining about something without having an idea on how to fix it is looked down upon.
We're in the business of software development: we're used to, nay, relying on people complaining without them having a clue what's actually going on or how to fix it Seriously though, please keep throwing any and all issues at us. It's how we improve. You being incredibly constructive is a nice bonus. Quote:
Are you saying the intent is to avoid additional settings in the UI?
That's exactly what I'm saying. A huge problem of the old GUI is that it was so cluttered.The long-term idea for the meter bar is to be able to fold and unfold it, maybe even to select which meters you want it to show on a per-page basis... But we need context menus for that. The last thing we want is to have to add another settings menu on some page with a bucket of checkboxes, overwhelming people. Wes |
Author: | t.j.evers [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
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What about making the meter pane resizable (and having it automatically remember the size), perhaps on a per-page basis?
I could do that, yes, but it would only be remembered during that specific session. Would that be acceptable?Anything we want to save will end up in the parameter list (permanently) and I'm trying to avoid that during development, since those settings might end up not being necessary in the final product. |
Author: | weskeene [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
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What about making the meter pane resizable (and having it automatically remember the size), perhaps on a per-page basis?
I could do that, yes, but it would only be remembered during that specific session. Would that be acceptable?Anything we want to save will end up in the parameter list (permanently) and I'm trying to avoid that during development, since those settings might end up not being necessary in the final product. You mentioned also possibly allowing the user to configure which meters are displayed, somehow. I'm in favor of that, too. |
Author: | hvz [ Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
BETA011 is posted! Biggest change is that we added a Winamp plugin with new GUI version. The rounding and Bypass clicking issues that were mentioned above are fixed. |
Author: | \_/ [ Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
Just tried the Winamp version with the new interface:
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Author: | timmywa [ Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
Because I have to.... Will the declipper only plugin/vst get a fresh update as well here shortly? Dunno if there's anything under the hood different, but the new gui treatment would be cool. |
Author: | MrKlorox [ Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
Out of curiosity, what's the point of using the declipper-only plugin? Is it just simplicity? If so, you should definitely try the new ST GUI with just the repair filters enabled. Things are folded, pretty well organized, and labeled more clearly. What would you want out of a declipper-focused GUI? The entire Repair section +ND? Would the advanced clipper be beneficial at all since it (seems to) has the worse-sounding simple one? Can one even buy the declipper by itself anymore, or is it only an addon for the Basic+ licenses? At what point would it just be better to use ST? I've always wondered these things. |
Author: | hvz [ Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 10 preview: New user interface |
Question. We're looking into how reset works now. Currently, a factory reset is a bit strange. In the sound card settings, it DOES reset the sample rate to 44.1, enables Normal Output and disables FM output, but it doesn't touch the selected sound cards themselves. It turns tilt correction (RC settings) off but keeps the values. The behavior is very inconsistent. So I want to get some feedback about what it should do:
Similar question for RDS: Should things like the PI code, PS text etc be reset to their default values? Almost everything else is... But the defaults in this case (PI=FFFF, PS="Stereo/Tool/...") don't really make much sense. |
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