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Author: | hvz [ Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
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To see what is difference in MB limiters, Turn ON just MB and Clipper play 50Hz sine tone, make limiter in that band to attenuate atleast ~6db set limiter speed to 0.1ms (lowest) you should have HARD clipping wich is normal since speed is 0.1ms, but you will not. Then press "hear" in MB, and now clipping is there and peek level is maintained always.
Oh. Yes, I see it now. Weird that that does not appear to happen at all with music.This is not trivial to fix... I'll have a listen tomorrow to see if it actually sounds better with Hear (but I assume you already did that?) So this leaves 2 questions: - Ignoring what you see in peak level, what sounds better? The sine wave itself won't sound louder without Hear, but it will have fewer harmonics. Which could very well be a good thing? - Possible issue: What happens with a sine wave and highs and nothing in between? Because I expect a sine wave with an empty area a few hundred Hz above it and audio above that to act this same way. |
Author: | Bojcha [ Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
Quote: Quote: Quote: Oh. Yes, I see it now. Weird that that does not appear to happen at all with music. This is not trivial to fix... I'll have a listen tomorrow to see if it actually sounds better with Hear (but I assume you already did that?) So this leaves 2 questions: - Ignoring what you see in peak level, what sounds better? The sine wave itself won't sound louder without Hear, but it will have fewer harmonics. Which could very well be a good thing? - Possible issue: What happens with a sine wave and highs and nothing in between? Because I expect a sine wave with an empty area a few hundred Hz above it and audio above that to act this same way. Just try same settings and rise input, pre-amp or MB drive, it will easily pass adjusted threshold peek level, like it's not Inf:1! and "Normal-Infinite ratio" mode for limiters should be that, inf:1. It happens in both cases tho, but less with "hear". For comparation, SB is working just fine. To answer question "hear" sounds better, since it's how it's intended to work. And btw, same difference is with compressors too. |
Author: | Bojcha [ Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
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Pre-Limiter: To use it as you describe, we might need something to allow you to configure how loud each frequency area is allowed to get. Tom was talking about the same thing, we'll take this into consideration.
As i said, isn't just SC PEQ elegant and nice solution? Trick is that i would first use it only on highs, probably spent few days to make some shape in eq for highs, also to watch to nicely fit to clipper and it's highs control. And 256 and up bands are nice for that. However even if i want to use it on bass, 256bands are not good, for bass would be needed 64 or less bands, and for mids something in the middle. Anyway i would be happy even with just SC-PEQ. It will be just like super advanced de-esser. |
Author: | KevGP [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:52 am ] |
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I assume you're talking about the old web interface? I've added it to the todo list. The interface code has been rewritten and it doesn't do exactly the same as before anymore - but the JavaScript code for the old web interface has not been updated yet.
Yep. The topic for the new V10 version has beta 44 as the newest, and the interface broke in between 9.91 beta 50 and 58. |
Author: | MrKlorox [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:33 pm ] |
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Yep. The topic for the new V10 version has beta 44 as the newest, and the interface broke in between 9.91 beta 50 and 58.
That's just the text. If you mouseover, it's actually 053 rn.
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Author: | hvz [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
Most of the old webinterface is running again (parametric EQ drawing doesn't work), for now at least. At some point we're going to have to completely remove it, because supporting it costs time. But that "some point" will likely be the same moment when we remove the old native interface. I'll run a build tonight. |
Author: | hvz [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
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Pre-Limiter: To use it as you describe, we might need something to allow you to configure how loud each frequency area is allowed to get. Tom was talking about the same thing, we'll take this into consideration.
As i said, isn't just SC PEQ elegant and nice solution? Trick is that i would first use it only on highs, probably spent few days to make some shape in eq for highs, also to watch to nicely fit to clipper and it's highs control. And 256 and up bands are nice for that. However even if i want to use it on bass, 256bands are not good, for bass would be needed 64 or less bands, and for mids something in the middle. Anyway i would be happy even with just SC-PEQ. It will be just like super advanced de-esser. |
Author: | the8trackkid [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
Has anyone else having trouble with the GUI crashing when turning off the old multiband compressor? |
Author: | hvz [ Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:53 pm ] |
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Has anyone else having trouble with the GUI crashing when turning off the old multiband compressor?
Just tried it, didn't see anything weird. Can you give some more details? What do you do exactly, and happens exactly? (And I assume this is in the old GUI?)
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Author: | the8trackkid [ Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.91/9.92 BETA |
Update I just deleted the ini file re-imported my preset and now things seem to work fine. |
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