preset: using only EQ and MB2. (3bands)mb_output_test1.sts
And file to play..
There is huge difference between hear on and off. Should be exactly same. And With "hear" on is how it should be. Same with clippers (non-soft tested)
Confirmed. It's caused by the distortion that's caused by the limiters. I'll have to look into this in more detail next week. This is not going to be an easy one to fix (it might not even be possible).
I see difference with compressors too, but much less. Usually when they fast. Btw, i guess it's not just easy to pass same audio to output as "hear" audio?
beta22, "Limit phase Difference" Still same, maybe even worse, still strange sound in audio for everything under 170deg. Same as in "Reduce stereo phase difference".
I just checked the "Limit phase difference" thing. Do you actually hearing the effect if you don't listen in Difference mode? Before I know the answer would have been yes because it sounded pretty bad before that + -> * change, due to pre-ringing etc.
I'm not really sure what I'm hearing. When I listen on headphones to the track that you mentioned (Fisher - Losing It), it appears that turning this filter on at 150 degrees for example adds some "bang" to the kicks on the right. So I took the right channel with and without this filter applied to it and put them on the different channels, and then I still heard that. But according to the spectrum, if anything there should be less audio, not more. So I wonder if the change in stereo is affecting how we perceive the audio.
I have also searched for the places where the effect was most noticeable to me, and then played the unprocessed and phase-limited version back to back (the right channel audio only), and if I do that, the phase-limited version is actually (as the spectrum already showed) slightly softer, basically the opposite of the effect that I'm hearing if I listen to the audio on different channels.
Can you try to describe what you're hearing? I'm curious if it's the same thing.
(Note: Before this beta series, "Limit phase difference" didn't do enough if the threshold was set close to or above 90 degrees, so it *should* do a lot more now than before, and it only does those extra things on the right channel. So that "difference" sounds way different from before on some tracks is on purpose).