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Author: | hvz [ Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote: Quote: Quote: Ok, that's the complete opposite of what I see. Can you send me your settings and test audio? On average, a bit more highs get through with this setting > 0 (nearly no effect on other frequencies), which is probably a good thing as long as those extra highs aren't distorted. I'll run a new build tonight. Edit: At 50 there's clearly more distortion. 25, 30 and 35 seem to be ok. I'm not too sure when I test it (even in a loop, I think I hear different things every time even with the same settings), but I measured it and - at least for the music that I tested with, 35 seems to be still ok. 50 clearly isn't, both based on listening tests and measurements. |
Author: | hvz [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
BETA012 posted. There's a new slider, "Allow distortion on thunder bass (threshold)", probably not a great name for what it does... But that setting controls how strongly it tries to reduce IMD, which is bad for random (thunder) bass sounds, good for tones. 50 is bad. 30 and 35 are probably still ok, but I'm not really sure - see my previous post. 0 is old behavior ("BAD!" on in the previous few beta's). |
Author: | EliteData [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote:
BETA012 posted. There's a new slider, "Allow distortion on thunder bass (threshold)", probably not a great name for what it does... But that setting controls how strongly it tries to reduce IMD, which is bad for random (thunder) bass sounds, good for tones. 50 is bad. 30 and 35 are probably still ok, but I'm not really sure - see my previous post. 0 is old behavior ("BAD!" on in the previous few beta's).
maybe its just me but i prefer to use white noise to calibrate ST for music since its flat freqs all across.can you imagine if a different type of white noise was used that emphasized upper freqs instead of lower freqs ? |
Author: | Bojcha [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote: Quote:
BETA012 posted. There's a new slider, "Allow distortion on thunder bass (threshold)", probably not a great name for what it does... But that setting controls how strongly it tries to reduce IMD, which is bad for random (thunder) bass sounds, good for tones. 50 is bad. 30 and 35 are probably still ok, but I'm not really sure - see my previous post. 0 is old behavior ("BAD!" on in the previous few beta's).
maybe its just me but i prefer to use white noise to calibrate ST for music since its flat freqs all across.can you imagine if a different type of white noise was used that emphasized upper freqs instead of lower freqs ? |
Author: | EliteData [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote: Quote: Quote:
BETA012 posted. There's a new slider, "Allow distortion on thunder bass (threshold)", probably not a great name for what it does... But that setting controls how strongly it tries to reduce IMD, which is bad for random (thunder) bass sounds, good for tones. 50 is bad. 30 and 35 are probably still ok, but I'm not really sure - see my previous post. 0 is old behavior ("BAD!" on in the previous few beta's).
maybe its just me but i prefer to use white noise to calibrate ST for music since its flat freqs all across.can you imagine if a different type of white noise was used that emphasized upper freqs instead of lower freqs ? i have different methods of testing and calibrating, such as injecting a sinewave based tone at the frequencies the MB is set to with white noise at the same dB level and observing the drops at certain frequencies and their bandwidth occupied by the drop. the same type of testing applies to pre-emphasis, to hear no audible drop differences with pre-emphasis turned on/off but not applied on the output (pre-emph enabled but not to output). so turning it on and off should produce virtually no difference, thats when pre-emph is calibrated properly, it produces the emphasis needed for AM/FM but without any push-downs on the lows from the mids/highs. |
Author: | Bojcha [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote: Quote: Quote: maybe its just me but i prefer to use white noise to calibrate ST for music since its flat freqs all across. can you imagine if a different type of white noise was used that emphasized upper freqs instead of lower freqs ? i have different methods of testing and calibrating, such as injecting a sinewave based tone at the frequencies the MB is set to with white noise at the same dB level and observing the drops at certain frequencies and their bandwidth occupied by the drop. the same type of testing applies to pre-emphasis, to hear no audible drop differences with pre-emphasis turned on/off but not applied on the output (pre-emph enabled but not to output). so turning it on and off should produce virtually no difference, thats when pre-emph is calibrated properly, it produces the emphasis needed for AM/FM but without any push-downs on the lows from the mids/highs. |
Author: | hvz [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
BETA012: Mac build that asks for microphone access uploaded WatchCat build with fix for beeps in unregistered version uploaded |
Author: | EliteData [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Quote: Quote: Quote: I use it too, but also many other tones like sine sweep. i have different methods of testing and calibrating, such as injecting a sinewave based tone at the frequencies the MB is set to with white noise at the same dB level and observing the drops at certain frequencies and their bandwidth occupied by the drop. the same type of testing applies to pre-emphasis, to hear no audible drop differences with pre-emphasis turned on/off but not applied on the output (pre-emph enabled but not to output). so turning it on and off should produce virtually no difference, thats when pre-emph is calibrated properly, it produces the emphasis needed for AM/FM but without any push-downs on the lows from the mids/highs. my comment was more or less "generalized" to a target regarding calibrating ST and the use of pre-emph. id rather not make it an "off topic" discussion in this thread though. |
Author: | MrKlorox [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Watchcat seems to be functioning properly now. Also, thanks for making the input gain of the plugin menu work when bypassed. |
Author: | Bojcha [ Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.64 BETA |
Something is wrong with "Soft Clipping" per MB bands. I set it to +35dB, so basicly should do nothing, but it rises band level by around 1dB. -- Some strange bug when changing CPU quality. Claimbigf: In Use! |
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