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Author: | hvz [ Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
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beta21 does not working good on WinXP. So be careful. Huge CPU load!
I'm still not sure if it's Windows XP or SSE only, but the compiler clearly didn't like the new (SSE path included, beside SSE2, SSE3, 4.1, 4.2, AVX and AVX2) settings. I've removed the SSE path and performance is back to normal on my XP VMware - it was about 30% heavier in 021. So, I'll run a new build with this fixed.
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Author: | hvz [ Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA022 Windows 32 bit: Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 12-022.exe Winamp DSP: https://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp ... 12-022.exe VST 2: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 12-022.dll VST 3: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 2-022.vst3 Windows 64 bit: Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 12-022.exe VST 2: https://www.stereotool.com/download/vst ... 12-022.dll VST 3: https://www.stereotool.com/download/vst ... 2-022.vst3 CHANGES:
I know, yet another bass filter. Mathijs was complaining that the bass still didn't sound right. It lacked warmth. We started experimenting, and at some point his reponse was "That's it!". So, we've worked on adding that specific bass. Somehow, I've never missed it, but when I listened to it in my car, I suddenly had the feeling that I was "bathing in bass". Hence the name "Immersive Bass". Interestingly, it is less noticable on my monitor speakers in our office. Earlier filters such as Basstardiser now sound "hollow" in comparison, and I would describe this new bass as "warm". The new "Dutch Chocolate Moose" preset is using it. Still work in progress, but it's close to Dutch Moose, with more of "that" bass. |
Author: | JesseG [ Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
The AVX2 button/config probably shouldn't be clickable/"usable" for my CPU... Attachment: StereoTool_2018-12-22_11-35-56.png [ 122.94 KiB | Viewed 6471 times ] |
Author: | iamwboss [ Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Is it possible to get a command line version for any beta? If possible in the next releases launch cmd version. |
Author: | \_/ [ Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Btw beta 18 & 21 sounded different (softer, warmer, better) from beta 22 or 9.11 final (the latter 2 sound the same). Does this have to do with ST using different optimization paths? (My CPUs support both SSE2 & AVX2.) |
Author: | raylan [ Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Please release the CMD version of the beta. Thank you! |
Author: | hvz [ Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
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Btw beta 18 & 21 sounded different (softer, warmer, better) from beta 22 or 9.11 final (the latter 2 sound the same). Does this have to do with ST using different optimization paths? (My CPUs support both SSE2 & AVX2.)
I'm seeing some differences between these versions that I can't explain in Stokkemask. Are you using that? The rest appears to be more or less the same. The compiler might make some different optimization decisions, they can lead to wildly different waveforms but that shouldn't affect the sound...Your pc should be using the AVX2 path in all these versions. You can try turning AVX2 off in the GUI (set it to Extreme Tweaker mode, then there's a setting in the Configuration panel). But I don't think it's that, since it should have taken the AVX path every time. Ow, and before BETA018, it would have always taken the SSE2 path because the AVX2 path wasn't available. |
Author: | hvz [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA023 I had planned to release 9.12 before Christmas but some small details still need to be fixed (the Pi build is failing, for example). Here's the latest beta. Windows 32 bit: Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 12-023.exe Winamp DSP: https://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp ... 12-023.exe VST 2: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 12-023.dll VST 3: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 2-023.vst3 Windows 64 bit: Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 12-023.exe VST 2: https://www.stereotool.com/download/vst ... 12-023.dll VST 3: https://www.stereotool.com/download/vst ... 2-023.vst3 CHANGES:
I know, yet another bass filter. Mathijs was complaining that the bass still didn't sound right. It lacked warmth. We started experimenting, and at some point his reponse was "That's it!". So, we've worked on adding that specific bass. Somehow, I've never missed it, but when I listened to it in my car, I suddenly had the feeling that I was "bathing in bass". Hence the name "Immersive Bass". Interestingly, it is less noticable on my monitor speakers in our office. Earlier filters such as Basstardiser now sound "hollow" in comparison, and I would describe this new bass as "warm". The new "Dutch Chocolate Moose" preset is using it. Still work in progress, but it's close to Dutch Moose, with more of "that" bass. |
Author: | JesseG [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Veil scope's scale is wrong in the Declipper Display pages. Attachment: StereoTool_2018-12-25_15-28-28.png [ 14.61 KiB | Viewed 5876 times ] I'll also send you my latest advanced clipper + composite clipper settings if you like. I tortured the snot out of it a couple weeks ago. What is the change with "highs issue in Composite Clipper" so I can use different settings if I need to? I might be controlling how that setting works with a couple other settings (a new trick i discovered) so might need less/no change compared to whatever you're experiencing (i had that setting at 462% until I make whatever changes I need to make now). Would be nice to know anyways, if you are able to share. I'm also looking at the Declipper detection, and it seems like something is possibly preventing the detection from going below a certain point. I will send you.... well... I also an getting very close to being done with Minnesota. Certainly close enough to get it into v9.12 release, even if my perfectionist habits aren't going to let me give it up for another month or so hehe. I'll just send you that since it has both of the declipper and clipper settings previously mentioned in it. |
Author: | hvz [ Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Stereo Tool 9.12 BETA |
Display level is relative to the input level, with 6 dB headroom. So if the input level is really low it will look like this. The highs thing: Loud highs tend to push everything else down. So there's some protection needed, and that's what this is. Bojcha complained about the fact that even with this protection enabled, it was lowering the low/mids too much on loud highs. I checked it and for certain tones the effect is indeed quite big. This is something that Leif and I worked on a few years ago because my old code was far too heavy, but I've seen now that in some cases my old method protected the low/mids much better. Lowering the setting to about 175-200% gives a similar result. But it comes at a cost (more distortion in the highs). I'll have some new idea now that might help to handle this, but that's something for next year. New release is almost coming, if I have your preset in time I can still put it in. Otherwise it will be in the next release. I already have a few things to look into that will hopefully not take too long, and there's a big MicroMPX improvement coming soon too, so I'm guessing that we'll have a new release a few weeks after 9.12. |
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