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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 3:47 pm 

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There is Power Bass, Bass Boost, and True Base! :)

There is also Power Highs, and Absolute Highs.

As a general rule, should any of these NOT be mixed?

Is it a bad idea to turn ALL of these on at once? :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:43 am 
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You can use them together, just don't overdo it. They have different purposes!


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 8:47 pm 

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Leading on from that question...

It seems there are some settings that use several things in tandem that don't seem like such a good idea, concept wise.

Take for example, the "Analog Pleasure" setting (by hvz ;)).

This setting uses AGC (in Stereo Tool it only decreases so there's a +20 db on the Preamp), along with the Compressor function of AGC, then adds *BOTH* Multiband compressors, as well as the Simple Clipper.

So... we are running Automatic Gain (itself a type of compression), plus THREE compressors, plus a limiter. Then on top of that, EQ,

Isn't that too much?

I guess I'm just trying to understand... what is the point or advantage of using THREE compressors?

:|


Here's an example of what that setting looks like; with so many compressors I would have expected it to completely crush it, but it didn't. (Probably the Declipper played somewhat of a role?)

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(First .mp3 image is original file, second .wav is "Analog Pleasure".)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:16 pm 

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@All Night

That's part of the art and science of designing sound. Broadcast audio processing typically needs a lot of things going on. The trick is to make it sound like almost nothing is going on. To be more specific to your point: It doesn't matter if you have 10 compressors inline, as long as they all use complimentary time constants, ratios, levels, and their total gain reduction doesn't get too outrageous.

The presets I have in Stereo Tool all use singleband AGC + MB1 + MB2, among other things. The AGC has a large window on it. It doesn't move easily. It's providing a wide range of control, but moment to moment, it's invisible. Take it out of line and you won't be able to tell, at least not right away.

MB1 runs at a somewhat high ratio, but has a window on it, as well. It's speeds and gates are also designed to minimize density buildup and stay as invisible as possible.

MB2 is configured as a straight-up soft limiter like you would find in other broadcast boxes. It does *not* do very much gain reduction at all. In fact, it's normal for some bands to have no gain reduction at all during a pretty dense song. Its only goal in life is to keep the clipper from getting into insane gain reduction when MB1 takes a while to attack (particularly on bass). MB2 also still allows plenty of short peaks through to the clipper. That's what keeps everything sounding punchy and clean.

There are no limits in Stereo Tool. Use your imagination! If it *sounds* good, it *is* good.


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