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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:56 pm 

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Stereo Tool 9.03 BETA022
Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 03-022.exe
Hi Hans

Was excited to see the 2nd input of the processor, but it suffers from the same issue reported back in v8.55 that seemed to fall off the to-look-at list after v9.00 came out...

* When using SCA as a second audio input and in combine/mix mode (ie not in backup mode), LQLL output does not contain the SCA audio input, only the normal input, whereas both FM out and Normal Out outputs has them both mixed as expected.

Basically LQLL audio is still missing the audio from the 2nd input. Normal, microMPX and Normal output are fine. We use the LQLL as quazi-post processor confidence feed to the presenters so they can hear what the processor is actively doing without the off-air latency coming into play - plus we can then put Stereo Tool into full HQ mode and not worry about how much delay we add to generate a classy compliant MPX!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:22 pm 
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Beta 0.22 standalone x64: ADPB seems to be broken when you set "Difference" sounds not oke, also when you set Limit normal output instead

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:25 pm 

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Hello to all,

Have you thought about starting again on a default configuration file, i. e. delete the stereo_tool.ini file (to start again on a good basis), maybe the error will no longer appear, because I am not the presence of this bug you describe.
I deleted my ini file, it completely reset all the things, which is good, I guess. But when I clicked to IO, it froze up still. This is on Win10 with DSP. I still don't know if I've seen the IO section yet. ;)

(This is using Bojcha's Dynarider preset for HD/Web, if that makes a difference)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:14 pm 
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Yes DSP here also on I/O freezes.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:10 pm 
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Good evening to all,

It is the specific use of a DSP card that causes this problem? and with a USB sound card it gives what?, because I have an M-AUDIO 2x2M, and I have no bug

I specify that I use the Bojcha -Dynarider preset without any problems


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:08 pm 
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If you have this bug, please send me the .ini file and tell me how you get it. But, I won't have time until after IBC.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:25 pm 

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Good evening to all,

It is the specific use of a DSP card that causes this problem? and with a USB sound card it gives what?, because I have an M-AUDIO 2x2M, and I have no bug

I specify that I use the Bojcha -Dynarider preset without any problems
I'm not using a sound card at all. Just in my automation's (StationPlaylist) DSP host.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:33 pm 
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It's most likely a GUI rendering issue where it's drawing outside of the window. I already fixed an issue like that 2 days ago, but there must be something else that I'm still missing. This probably happens at a specific combination of window size and in which menu you are. Maybe also related to 4K vs non-4K.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:28 pm 
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Found & fixed crash cause, new build is running.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:38 am 
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Stereo Tool 9.03 BETA023

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 03-023.exe
Winamp DSP: https://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp ... 03-023.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 03-023.dll

Windows 64 bit:
Windows stand alone: https://www.stereotool.com/download/ste ... 03-023.exe
VST: https://www.stereotool.com/download/vst ... 03-023.dll

Latest MicroMPX:
Windows MicroMPX web based decoder: https://www.stereotool.com/download/Mic ... 03-023.exe
Windows MicroMPX web based encoder: https://www.stereotool.com/download/Mic ... 03-023.exe
Windows MicroMPX command line enc/dec: https://www.stereotool.com/download/Mic ... 03-023.exe
Windows libsndfile-1.dll (needed for MicroMPX decoder and command line version, place in same directory): MicroMPX command line enc/dec: https://www.stereotool.com/download/libsndfile-1.dll


CHANGES:
  • Fixed GUI crash in plugins when going to I/O submenu (which is now merged with the main Config menu again).

    OLD CHANGES:
  • Fix GUI crash in 915x577 screen size on non-4K screens.
  • Put something on I/O page (it's empty now)
  • Put Dutch Moose and PFD presets in SST
  • Add Kantar support
  • Added PFD preset (literally dozens of people requested that). Still need to change the name, it's the 2nd Dutch Moose in the list (the name is too long, so I'll rename it to just PFD 2018)
  • Add MicroMPX decoder abonneer-IP
  • Fri: SST/uMPX interface
  • The BIMP on LQLL
  • Bug fix: Dehummer had a crackle since version 014. That's back to normal again now.
  • Test MicroMPX with Stokkemask - 0.5 dB -> Changing setting in Stereo Tool helps
  • Show a warning if Quality it not set to 150% for Latency 128 and 256.
  • Bass Clipper sounds horrible at 128, True Bass at 128 and 256 -> disabled.
  • Update Dutch Moose
  • Clipper: Bass section lowpass freqs should not be too close at latency 512, 256, 128. (Noticeable in Dutch Moose preset)
  • Check that The BIMP works, maybe add parametric eq
  • MicroMPX rate limiter
  • 192 kHz input is broken! Output is mono, something is going wrong
  • SST ID's
  • Crackle in 2nd PDF track -> Improved
  • Allow lower latency (6 ms, 9 ms)
  • Improve clipper sound 1-6 kHz area
  • License The BIMP
  • Updated Paul Thompson's and Bojcha's presets
  • Updated Dutch Moose preset (more highs. less deep bass, less stereo widening, sounds much cleaner)
  • Stok: Lower samplerates look less good (and that makes no sense test without LOWER) -> 44.1 is ok now (-0.01 dB), 40 kHz is clearly lower (-0.20 dB), still way better than before (it was more than -0.40 dB in 9.02).
  • Add MicroMPX plugin licensing [22]
  • Fix Pi build (Stokkemask NEON code)
  • Update LogInOut code
  • New Stokkemask mode now works well in all Strictness settings above 7 (below 7 it's not very strict)
  • Stok: Post filter caused NANs
  • Stok: Move start point to later stage? (TUESDAY)
  • Cleanup code for VST3 David
  • Turn BIMP *OFF*
  • DrawWave draws outside of screen in FM analyzer (TUESDAY) - apparently ok
  • Include MicroMPX - for real now [22]
  • Hide Matrix Stereo for now
  • Stok: Add post filter
  • Stok: Legacy CPU load back to that of 9.02
  • API: Audio signal VU meter, info about whether stream is good NOW.
  • Started with matrix-based stereo widener; not happy yet.
  • Stokkemask NAN and other exceptions solved. (from previous beta)
  • Stokkemask threading issue solved. (from previous beta)
  • Stok: Remove overlap shortcut for stricter result (increases CPU).
  • Stok: Measure mask in every stage for stricter result (increases CPU).
  • Stok: Apply measured results in every stage for stricter result (increases CPU).
  • Stok: Replace L-R reduction in final stages by total volume reduction.
  • Stok: Figure out how to adjust shape at different sample rates -> Found correct Gaussian window sigma value instead, applied for both processing and display (which were set differently before!)
  • Stok: Replace "Looseness (sounds better)" by something that moves the mask up and down.
  • Stok: 1e stage only inner
  • Stok: More steps at end, needs to be both tighter and have less effect (is that last thing still needed???)
  • Stok: Try reducing the audio level in the final stage - lowering highs has proven useless at that point. --> SEEMS TO WORK, but only do this as the last stage!
  • MicroMPX SWEEP
  • Fixed a crash in the "Limit instead" code (Advanced Clipper).
  • Removed (moved to Extreme Tweaker for possible future testing) some Stokkemask settings that had a bad effect on compliance. Good settings are 50% / 30% / 40 dB (without the 40 dB it should be fne too, but there's a bigger chance at overshoots at the bottom of the mask. 100% for the first value increases overshoots!!!!! 39 and 38 should be safe as well - but I haven't had time to measure those separately anymore. Anyway in the older versions this value was set to 0....... Setting it higher may cause an audio quality reduction.
  • Crash fixed
  • Stokkemask: Try I/Q Clipper mode, highs are coming out slightly too loud, due to LPF? Might be good enough... -> Idea doesn't work
  • Stokkemask: We don't care about CPU load, try adding more stages -> No effect
  • Stokkemask: Default back to 50% for safety - that way we don't have to worry about breaking older versions. And we still get 90% of the improvement that way.
  • More experimental stokkemask settings added.
  • Stokkemask: Improved further (looks about equally strict, but I can squeeze over 1 dB more anti-phase content through than with 9.02). NOTE: SETTINGS ARE DEFAULTING TO 9.02 BEHAVIOR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW YET IF THE SIGNAL IS EQUALLY STRICT, AND I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO GET FINED FOR HAVING STOKKEMASK OVERSHOOTS. To get the new behavior, set "New looseness 1" higher (50% should definitely be safe, I'm not sure about 100%), "New looseness 2" to 30%, and "Side level" to 40.
  • Improved Stokkemask - output is stricter (closer to the mask), so it has less impact on stereo separation. (*)
  • Memory usage reduced by about 12 MB

    PLANNED:
  • MicroMPX in plugins as well
  • RDS TA/TP regional stuff
  • Fact
  • Hiccups in display
  • Continuous learning Dehummer, test if this also helps with reverb
  • AF method B
  • VST unique names?
  • RDS AF method B, longer lists
  • Release
    -
  • MicroMPX: highs idea BUSY -> Find beta testers TEST STOKKEMASK EFFECT TOMORROW
    -
  • Linux multiple instances
  • Matrix stereo widener BUSY, problem with suddenly loud stereo (goes down in level, makes everything pump - badly). Try running L+R with a slower attack speed, if that doesn't sound good, remove it.
  • Optimize Stokkemask post filter
  • RDS urgent issue
  • Cntrct IN
    -
  • Show warning when using MME with wrong sample rate
  • Test preset that causes buffer to run empty - why? --> Settings issue, maybe add a popup for this situation (buffer is slowly filling up or running empty)...
  • Bug report: Linux version uses 100% CPU on one thread, even in bypass mode (must be sound card thread?) -> Not here. Not sure what's going on.....
  • Test 64 bit sound card exception handling in ProppFrexx - that wasn't the problem... apparently
    -
  • Declipper: Put startup in system tray back in Declipper (at least in the Winamp plugin version).
  • RDS: EON: Support for other type of AF frequencies?
  • RDS: Support for AF method B
  • RDS: RT end at \n
  • Brian, NAB
  • MOBO
  • uMPX encoder/plugin: Sound card speed message
  • uMPX decoder: Add multicast subscribe
  • Add MagicRDS AF method B support

New vs old Stokkemask measurement numbers, relative to 48 kHz no stokkemask, for audio with quite extreme stereo. Numbers are L-R loudness, L loudness
Code:
Freq     old/new          L-R    L
48   kHz no  Stokkemask:  0.00,  0.00 (reference)
48   kHz new Stokkemask: -0.62, -0.27 (0.46, 0.10 better than old!)
44.1 kHz new Stokkemask: -0.63, -0.22 (0.54, 0.11 better than old!)
40   kHz new Stokkemask: -0.82, -0.29 (0.65, 0.14 better than old!)
48   kHz old Stokkemask: -1.08, -0.37
44.1 kHz old Stokkemask: -1.17, -0.33
40   kHz old Stokkemask: -1.47, -0.43


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