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 Post subject: Stereo Tool 8.36 BETA
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:31 pm 
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Hi all,

Wes Keene reported a very important bug: As it turns out, the RMS mode of the analog compressor was actually not RMS at all, but something in between RMS and average. This version brings it much closer to RMS. This does change the behavior quite a bit. Most importantly:
- Loud vocals are reduced less
- Other sounds are reduced more
- Big attack jumps are handled faster. Release might be slower.

In general I can say that this new compressor mode (I've named it RMS, old is now RMS (pre-8.36), you can find it under 'Sound') sounds more stable, more consistent and less "pumpy". Note: In the Digital mode this setting is identical to normal RMS mode.

Note: This is a pretty big change so I may have overlooked something. I think I've tested all the relevant compressor settings though.

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-003.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 36-003.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 36-003.dll

Windows 64 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-003.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 36-003.dll

CHANGES
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER could change to Phase Delay graph and vice versa.
- RMS same behavior for DC Waiting for feedback
- Triple WAIT FOR FEEDBACK

TODO:
- Added RMS level compensation (+1.8 dB setting to match Old RMS, which is now also named Old RMS).
- Equalizer still broken (???)
- SST upload / confirm / download / delete presets
- uMPX web interface
- Disabling FM output makes Normal output pre-emphasized, even in SST.
- Test clipping
- Classical music compressor
- RDS word wrap chance for ArcticPalm: Split words if needed. Dave Hartman.
- Wolf Stahl NAN error -> Still trying to reproduce...
- Clipper "Prioritize loudness" mode. Tested and seems to work, fine-tuning needed.
- Fix anti-phase. Tested and seems to work, needs to be implemented to always work.
- NAB
- WASAPI exclusive mode disables certain things, make it possible to disable it (David O'Nell)


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:47 pm 

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Strak :-)


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:37 am 

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That sounds really really great! Unfortunately, the bug in the VST64 version for Windows is still contained, which I posted here. Could you please check what you can do about it?


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:18 pm 
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Hi all,

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-004.exe
Winamp DSP: ----://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_stereo_ ... 36-004.exe
VST: ----://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_stereo_ ... 36-004.dll

Windows 64 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-004.exe
VST: ----://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_stereo_ ... 36-004.dll

CHANGES:
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER was still not ok, should be now.
- New RMS mode split in 2 modes: "RMS" which has the same behavior as Peak and Old RMS for DC offsets (the standard behavior), and another new RMS mode with 1.8 dB higher thresholds to be nearly identical to the old RMS mode, to make it easier to convert presets to the new RMS mode.

OLD CHANGES
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER could change to Phase Delay graph and vice versa.
- RMS same behavior for DC Waiting for feedback

TODO:
- Triple ,0 with GUI doesn't work
- AGC bug: Window did not work properly (caused clicking sounds and jumps) with AGC block sizes smaller than the default block size.
- Clipper "Prioritize loudness" mode. Works for composite clipper, fine-tuning and non-composite support needed.
- SST upload / confirm / download / delete presets
- uMPX web interface
- Disabling FM output makes Normal output pre-emphasized, even in SST.
- Test clipping
- Classical music compressor
- RDS word wrap chance for ArcticPalm: Split words if needed. Dave Hartman.
- Wolf Stahl NAN error -> Still trying to reproduce...
- Fix anti-phase. Tested and seems to work, needs to be implemented to always work.
- NAB
- WASAPI exclusive mode disables certain things, make it possible to disable it (David O'Nell)


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:11 pm 

Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:42 am
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Hi. I think I found a bug (8.36 beta 003). Load any preset and go to AGC / Side Chain. Now load for example 7 Wonders (soft). When loaded, as soon as you move the mouse, the side chain curve is modified. Do you see this too ?


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:22 pm 

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There is a settings bug. If you load any preset, the Leif composite strictness seems to go down to 8. I use 9 in my settings, but I have to reset it to 9 anytime I load a preset, even if that preset already uses 9.

I have not tested other values. I assume it's broken always.


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:33 pm 
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Windows 32 bit:
Winamp DSP: ----://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_stereo_ ... 36-004.exe
When downloading this, the header says this is 8.36 BETA 003. Install file is exact size as the 8.36 Beta 003. Basically I see no difference between the two.


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Quote:
Quote:

Windows 32 bit:
Winamp DSP: ----://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_stereo_ ... 36-004.exe
When downloading this, the header says this is 8.36 BETA 003. Install file is exact size as the 8.36 Beta 003. Basically I see no difference between the two.
That's why I made the link invalid by replacing http by ----... I guess the forum is too smart though...


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:21 pm 
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Hi all,

Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-005.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 36-005.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 36-005.dll

Windows 64 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-005.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 36-005.dll

CHANGES:
- AGC bug: Window did not work properly (caused clicking sounds and jumps) with AGC block sizes smaller than the default block size.
- Clipper: Prioritize Loudness works for composite clipper (see Advanced Clipper -> Sound). Might need further optimization.

OLD CHANGES
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER could change to Phase Delay graph and vice versa.
- RMS same behavior for DC Waiting for feedback
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER was still not ok, should be now.
- New RMS mode split in 2 modes: "RMS" which has the same behavior as Peak and Old RMS for DC offsets (the standard behavior), and another new RMS mode with 1.8 dB higher thresholds to be nearly identical to the old RMS mode, to make it easier to convert presets to the new RMS mode.

TODO:
- There is a settings bug. If you load any preset, the Leif composite strictness seems to go down to 8. I use 9 in my settings, but I have to reset it to 9 anytime I load a preset, even if that preset already uses 9.
- Clipper "Prioritize loudness" mode. Now also works for non-composite clipper, and much bigger effect.
- LW version remove Diff, Hear, Absolute Highs
- Wolf Stahl NAN error -> Still trying to reproduce...
- RDS word wrap chance for ArcticPalm: Split words if needed. Dave Hartman.

- SST upload / confirm / download / delete presets
- uMPX web interface
- Disabling FM output makes Normal output pre-emphasized, even in SST.
- Test clipping
- Classical music compressor
- Fix anti-phase. Tested and seems to work, needs to be implemented to always work.
- NAB
- WASAPI exclusive mode disables certain things, make it possible to disable it (David O'Nell)


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:38 am 
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Windows 32 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-006.exe
Winamp DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 36-006.exe
VST: http://---.stereotool.com/download/vst_stereo_tool_BETA836-006.dll BUILD FAILED

Windows 64 bit:
Windows stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 36-006.exe
VST: http://---.stereotool.com/download/vst_stereo_tool_64_BETA836-006.dll BUILD STILL BUSY

CHANGES:
- There is a settings bug. If you load any preset, the Leif composite strictness seems to go down to 8. I use 9 in my settings, but I have to reset it to 9 anytime I load a preset, even if that preset already uses 9. -> Long names in the STS file were cut off!
- Clipper "Prioritize loudness" mode. Now also works for non-composite clipper, and much bigger effect.
- LW version removed Diff, Hear, Absolute Highs

OLD CHANGES
- AGC bug: Window did not work properly (caused clicking sounds and jumps) with AGC block sizes smaller than the default block size.
- Clipper: Prioritize Loudness works for composite clipper (see Advanced Clipper -> Sound). Might need further optimization.
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER could change to Phase Delay graph and vice versa.
- RMS same behavior for DC Waiting for feedback
- Bug fix (8.34): EQUALIZER was still not ok, should be now.
- New RMS mode split in 2 modes: "RMS" which has the same behavior as Peak and Old RMS for DC offsets (the standard behavior), and another new RMS mode with 1.8 dB higher thresholds to be nearly identical to the old RMS mode, to make it easier to convert presets to the new RMS mode.

TODO:
- Long STS file names fixed (more)
- Sound card issue in Generic plugin (2 threads)
- Triple ,0 with GUI doesn't work WAITING FOR FEEDBACK
- New RMS mode: Add channel linking!
- SST preset upload: Make sure they are ordered correctly. And how to put the new one up front?
- New RMS mode: Compensate for release speed difference. Is going slower now for bigger drop.
- New RMS mode: Release is slower for bigger distances, should I fix that?
- RDS word wrap chance for ArcticPalm: Split words if needed. Dave Hartman.
- Wolf Stahl NAN error -> Still trying to reproduce...

- SST upload / confirm / download / delete presets
- uMPX web interface
- Disabling FM output makes Normal output pre-emphasized, even in SST.
- Test clipping
- Classical music compressor
- Fix anti-phase. Tested and seems to work, needs to be implemented to always work.
- NAB
- WASAPI exclusive mode disables certain things, make it possible to disable it (David O'Nell)


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