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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:55 am 
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Some people complained that in the Loudness filter the volume goes up and down to slowly, causing pumping.

I've now added an extra more fine grained filter at the start of Loudness that reduces this effect. It also reduces pre-ringing by a few dB.

To my surprise, the output level of Loudness is also slightly more constant than before, allowing a less aggressive Loudness setting which might also give less Hard Limit artifacts.

Feedback is welcome! (Ow, the bass level is slightly higher than before, but that should not cause any extra highs distortion or voice vibrations, it's caused by the less aggressive Loudness settings).


The fine-grained filter MIGHT cause artifacts on its own, or remove artifacts that existed without it. I'm not sure about this, and I don't hear a difference.


Winamp DSP plugin: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 510-47.exe
Stand alone version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-47.exe
VST version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-47.dll
VST version (No SSE2): http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-47.dll
Command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-47.exe
Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47 (not built)
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47 (not built)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:14 pm 

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Some people complained that in the Loudness filter the volume goes up and down to slowly, causing pumping.

I've now added an extra more fine grained filter at the start of Loudness that reduces this effect. It also reduces pre-ringing by a few dB.

To my surprise, the output level of Loudness is also slightly more constant than before, allowing a less aggressive Loudness setting which might also give less Hard Limit artifacts.

Feedback is welcome! (Ow, the bass level is slightly higher than before, but that should not cause any extra highs distortion or voice vibrations, it's caused by the less aggressive Loudness settings).


The fine-grained filter MIGHT cause artifacts on its own, or remove artifacts that existed without it. I'm not sure about this, and I don't hear a difference.


Winamp DSP plugin: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 510-47.exe
Stand alone version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-47.exe
VST version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-47.dll
VST version (No SSE2): http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-47.dll
Command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-47.exe
Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47 (not built)
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47 (not built)
Hi Hans, where is my nasty bass @ :-). To my ears the sound is too clean and too thin, but maybe this is caused by my presets.

Edit: the bass sounds less 'dynamic' and 'bold', compared with b41


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:53 pm 
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Hi Hans, where is my nasty bass @ :-). To my ears the sound is too clean and too thin, but maybe this is caused by my presets.

Edit: the bass sounds less 'dynamic' and 'bold', compared with b41
Hm, if you want a 'dirty' bass, try setting the 'dirty bass' slider to the maximum... And then please let me know if it does what you expect!


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:11 pm 

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Hi Hans, where is my nasty bass @ :-). To my ears the sound is too clean and too thin, but maybe this is caused by my presets.

Edit: the bass sounds less 'dynamic' and 'bold', compared with b41
Hm, if you want a 'dirty' bass, try setting the 'dirty bass' slider to the maximum... And then please let me know if it does what you expect!
Oh yeah, I missed that magic slider :oops:

Edit: wow, I've to push the silder even a bit down. Thanks Hans!


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:15 pm 
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Oh yeah, I missed that magic slider :oops:
I just hope it does enough - you won't get a bass as dirty (including pre-ringing etc.) as in older versions anymore...


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:24 pm 

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Oh yeah, I missed that magic slider :oops:
I just hope it does enough - you won't get a bass as dirty (including pre-ringing etc.) as in older versions anymore...


Good deal ;-) Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:41 am 
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Here are the Linux versions for the latest BETA - and this time the GUI version should work without segmentation fault!

Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-47


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:32 am 
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Highs Burst does not work properly in the new fine-grained filter, will be fixed asap.


Edit: Building update now. Difference is very small - but it's there.

Edit #2: Hm, there's another problem. The 'Allow louder highs' filter doesn't function properly anymore. This results in highs pushing down the lows - or even distorting. Set it near -40000 for good sound! I'll have to check what's going on here...

Edit #2A: Problem doesn't seem to bad as I thought - setting 'Account for highs' to 0% and 'Max highs burst strength' to 200% seems to fix most of it - without hurting the highs as reducing 'Allow louder highs' does. (But it doesn't fully fix it).


Edit #3: What I'm now doing for lows - protecting them against pre-ringing and too much distortion - I should probably also do for mids and highs. If that works I can completely remove the 'Allow louder highs' etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:03 am 
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Slightly improved loud 'S' handling (but more is coming up - it's not good enough yet).
Winamp DSP plugin: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 510-48.exe
Stand alone version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-48.exe
VST version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-48.dll
VST version (No SSE2): http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 510-48.dll
Command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 510-48.exe
Linux command line version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-48
Linux GUI version: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... BETA510-48


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 5.02
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:25 am 
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Hans.... last Beta had more sound clarity on vocals and highs :(

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