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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:41 am 

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Please give suggestions, comments, etc. so version 2.0 can sound better. I can't be the only one who likes this sound. Negative and/or positive feedback are welcome.

CHANGES IN 2.0
- Took hvz advice and lowered final limiter to 0.50 and loudness to 2.00 to eliminate distortion.
- Fixed excessive bass pumping.
CHANGES IN 2.1
- Went back to 1.00 Final Limiter and 1.00 Loudness because taking hvz's advice changes the sound signature that I liked so much. Until this is "sound change" issue is fixed in a later version of ST, the old way (with some distortion) remains.

Baires' Radio 2.1
Code:
[Common]
Pre amplifier=10
Post amplifier=0.930000007
Extra loudness=1
Extra loudness - Very deep bass relative clipping level=0
Extra loudness - De-esser limit=65650
Extra loudness - Punchy=0.224999905
Extra loudness - Max Punch peak=0.75
Extra loudness - Deep bass protection - Enabled=1
Extra loudness - Deep bass protection - Difference=0
Extra loudness - Deep bass protection - Value=0.638750076
Extra loudness - Forcibly remove DC component caused by Loudness=0
Extra loudness - Reflection strength=0.099999994
Extra loudness - Allow more distortion=0
Extra loudness - Highs burst strength=1
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Very deep bass filter frequency 1=150
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Very deep bass filter frequency 2=350
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Clip very deep bass at=0.899999976
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - BassMid filter frequency 1=350
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - BassMid filter frequency 2=750
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Clip BassMid at=1
Extra loudness - Voice vibrations - Highs feedback strength=1
Extra loudness - Voice vibrations - Never reduce bass below=0.400000006
Extra loudness - Voice vibrations - Multiply measured vibration level by=0.899999976
Extra loudness - Voice vibrations - Ignore vibration levels below=0.5
Extra loudness - Voice vibrations - Reduce sensitivity for non-constant sounds strength=1
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping=1
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping - More strict=0
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping frequency 1=250
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping frequency 2=350
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping - Clip bass at=0.899999976
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping - Clip Punched bass at=0.949999988
Extra loudness - New Bass Protection - Strict clipping - Never dynamically raise bass level above=1
Extra loudness - Dirty Bass=0
Bass protection - Enabled=1
Bass protection - Two steps=0
Bass protection - Clip level=140
Bass protection - Deep bass boost=0
Bass protection - Raise clip level if highs get above=150
Bass protection - Maximum clip level raise=35
Hard limit output=1
[FM Hiss]
Enabled=0
Difference=0
FM median pos=25
FM measure max multiplier=2
FM reduce=150
FM delay=2.5
FM delay median=7.5
[Noise Gate]
Enabled=1
Difference=0
Noise level=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 1=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 2=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 3=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 4=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 5=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 6=1
Relative noise gate level - Band 7=1
[Singleband Compressor]
Enabled=0
Difference=0
Maximum volume=1.5
Attack speed=0.004095
Decay speed=0.000539601
Above Top Limiter=0
AGC RMS style Enabled=0
AGC RMS style Target RMS level=25000
AGC RMS style Remove remaining peaks above=1.5
[Pre Compressor]
Enabled=0
Maximum volume - Band 1=35000
Attack speed - Band 1=0.000002096
Attack speed - Band 3=0.000002096
Decay speed - Band 1=0.00026822
Decay speed - Band 3=0.00026822
Dual band=1
Third band=0
Relative expected volume of highs=0.649999976
Relative maximum volume of highs=3
Relative maximum volume of very highs=0.330000013
Remove remaining peaks above (relative to maximum volume)=1.299999952
Maximum expected dynamics strength for smoothing=1
Enable smoothing=0
Smoothing time=10
Gating level=512
Use ITU-BS.1770=0
Channel separation=0.300000012
Gating based on volume before Pre Amp=1
Lock bass to band 2 strength=0.5
[Multiband Compressor]
Enabled=1
Difference=0
Delay enabled=0
Maximum volume - Band -1=4410
Maximum volume - Band 0=4410
Maximum volume - Band 1=4410
Maximum volume - Band 2=4410
Maximum volume - Band 3=4410
Maximum volume - Band 4=4410
Maximum volume - Band 5=4410
Maximum volume - Band 6=4410
Maximum volume - Band 7=4410
Maximum volume - Band 8=4410
Attack speeds linked=0
Attack speed - Band -1=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 0=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 1=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 2=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 3=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 4=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 5=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 6=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 7=0.000129997
Attack speed - Band 8=0.000129997
Decay speeds linked=0
Decay speed - Band -1=0.000600015
Decay speed - Band 0=0.000600015
Decay speed - Band 1=0.000600015
Decay speed - Band 2=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 3=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 4=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 5=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 6=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 7=0.000999812
Decay speed - Band 8=0.000999812
Above Top Limiter=1
Clipping enabled=1
Postprocessing enabled=1
Flat frequency response enabled=1
Relative clip position - Band -1=3
Relative clip position - Band 0=3
Relative clip position - Band 1=3
Relative clip position - Band 2=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 3=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 4=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 5=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 6=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 7=1.985074759
Relative clip position - Band 8=1.985074759
Final limiter value=0.399999976
Final limiter decay speed=0.002000467
Final limiter clipping=1.500000238
Equalizer enabled=1
Equalize before multiband-compression=1
Equalizer position - Band -1=0.694915175
Equalizer position - Band 0=0.801801801
Equalizer position - Band 1=1
Equalizer position - Band 2=1
Equalizer position - Band 3=1
Equalizer position - Band 4=1
Equalizer position - Band 5=1
Equalizer position - Band 6=1
Equalizer position - Band 7=1
Equalizer position - Band 8=1
Center frequency - Band -1=43.06640625
Center frequency - Band 0=86.1328125
Center frequency - Band 1=172.265625
Center frequency - Band 2=344.53125
Center frequency - Band 3=689.0625
Center frequency - Band 4=1378.125
Center frequency - Band 5=2756.25
Center frequency - Band 6=5512.5
Center frequency - Band 7=10000
Center frequency - Band 8=15000
[Stereo]
Enabled=2
Stereo AZIMUTH Enabled=0
Stereo Image Enabled=0
Stereo Boost Enabled=0
Stereo Boost Excessive Reverb Protection Enabled=0
Delay enabled=0
Difference=0
Center bass=0
AZIMUTH limit=0
AZIMUTH change speed=0
Image phase amplifier=1
Image phase amplifier maximum angle=180
Image phase amplifier maximum separation strength=100
Image width amplifier=1
Extra phase shift=0
Mono or stereo only=0
Stereo Boost strength=1
Stereo Boost maximum amplification=3
Stereo Boost multiplier=1
Stereo Boost - Never reduce below original level=1
[Channel Delay]
Enabled=0
Left Delay=0
[Output Filter]
Enabled=0
Lowpass filter=15000
Highpass filter=20
Highpass filter linearity=Auto
[Bass Boost]
Enabled=0
Strength=1
Start lowpass frequency of input filter=0
End lowpass frequency of input filter=120
Start lowpass frequency of output filter=120
End lowpass frequency of output filter=250
Clip level=1.5
Clip level is relative to estimated maximum level=1
Preserve louder peaks=1
Difference=0
[Phase Rotator]
Enabled=0
Start frequency=700
Start speed=1400
Number of rotations=4
Smoothness=0.979999959
[Final Limiter]
Enabled=1
Difference=0
Pre-amp=1
Pre-limiter enabled=0
Pre-limiter relative volume=1.75
Reduced CPU processing=0
[FM Transmitter]
Enabled=0
Pre-emphasize=1
Pre-emphasis time=75
Output is pre-emphasized=0
Stereo encoder enabled=0
RDS encoder enabled=0
Pilot signal volume=9
RDS signal volume=4.5
FM overdrive volume=1
RDS PS text=2s:STEREO/2s:TOOL/<1=1.5s,2..-2=2t,-1=1.5s:WWW.STEREOTOOL.COM/|\W"PLAYING %artist% - %title%        "/1s:\T2h\:\T02m\:\T02s/1s:\T2h\:\T02m\.\T02s/1s:\T2h\:\T02m\:\T02s
RDS RadioText text=60s:Stereo Tool: Professional Audio Processing - www.stereotool.com/30s:Stereo Tool by Hans van Zutphen, 1999-2008 - www.stereotool.com/30s:\W"%artist% - %title% - %album%"
RDS PTY=31
RDS PI=65535
RDS Alternative frequency 1=0
RDS Alternative frequency 2=0
RDS Alternative frequency 3=0
RDS Alternative frequency 4=0
RDS Alternative frequency 5=0
RDS Alternative frequency 6=0
RDS Alternative frequency 7=0
RDS Alternative frequency 8=0
RDS Alternative frequency 9=0
RDS Alternative frequency 10=0
RDS Alternative frequency 11=0
RDS Alternative frequency 12=0
RDS Alternative frequency 13=0
RDS Alternative frequency 14=0
RDS Alternative frequency 15=0
RDS Alternative frequency 16=0
RDS Alternative frequency 17=0
RDS Alternative frequency 18=0
RDS Alternative frequency 19=0
RDS Alternative frequency 20=0
RDS Alternative frequency 21=0
RDS Alternative frequency 22=0
RDS Alternative frequency 23=0
RDS Alternative frequency 24=0
RDS Alternative frequency 25=0
RDS TP=1
RDS TA=0
RDS Music=1
RDS Artificial Head=1
RDS Compressed=1
RDS Dynamic PTY=0
RDS RadioText Enabled=0
RDS ClockTime Enabled=0
FM Transmitter Calibration Enabled=0
MPX Oversampling mode=Follow main Quality setting
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 20 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 40 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 80 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 160 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 320 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 640 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 1280 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 2560 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 5120 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 10240 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 19000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 23000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 28000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 33000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 38000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 43000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 48000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 53000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Volume 57000 Hz=1
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 20 Hz=-0.012500003
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 40 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 80 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 160 Hz=0.012499988
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 320 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 640 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 1280 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 2560 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 5120 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 10240 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 19000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 23000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 28000 Hz=-0.007500008
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 33000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 38000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 43000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 48000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 53000 Hz=0
FM Transmitter Calibration - Phase shift 57000 Hz=0
[Lossy compression output optimization]
Enabled=1
Spike Protation pre-emphasis time=30
[Direct soundcard access]
Enabled=0
Device ID=Microsoft Sound Mapper
Volume=1
Buffer size=1
Send to Winamp=Nothing
ASIO Override channel 1=4
ASIO Override channel 2=5
[Low latency output]
Enabled=0
Device ID=Microsoft Sound Mapper
Volume=1
Buffer size=0.080000006
ASIO Override channel 1=2
ASIO Override channel 2=3



Last edited by baires0314 on Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:13 am, edited 5 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: My New Preset
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:41 am 
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The most important thing is missing !

A preset without a name ? :o :shock: :?


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 Post subject: Re: My New Preset
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:51 am 

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LOL sarcasm huh? :) But I really don't have a title for it yet. But I like the sound. A sound that great can't be titled :D


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 Post subject: Re: My New Preset
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:27 am 
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Sorry, your preset has no name and you give no information what the purpose of this preset is.

Broadcasting ?
Web or FM ?
Or at home ?
Sound characteristic ?
..... ?

The only information here:
You have created a new preset (and you like it).

This is nonsense.

You are here to share it, or what ?
Then you have to use a name for the preset and give a mininum information what this preset is good for.
If you don't have the perfect name for it now, you can always change it later.
But without a name (and any information) it is nonsense to share it here and now !
Don't be so fuckin' lazy !


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:48 pm 

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Come on guys I need some feedback. Gtxx? hvz? Anyone? I haven't found one song that sounds "bad" (to me of course) with this preset and I've tried it with Hip-Hop, R&B, Dance/Electronic, Bachata, and Salsa music.


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:35 pm 
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Hello Baires , i have listen with your preset but i think than the sound pumping little bit :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:42 pm 

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Quote:
Hello Baires , i have listen with your preset but i think than the sound pumping little bit :shock:
Hey garfield,
Do you mean that there is TOO much bass? Should I do less bass "pumping"?
Originally I had less but some songs did not sound good because they had little bass and many highs so the bass was lost.
Let me know if this is what you meant. Thanks :)


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:58 pm 
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@ baires0314

Is this the same (or any change) as your noname preset ?
Or have changed some settings before you named it Baires' Radio 1.0 ?

Your noname preset was not good IMO, sorry.
Too much highs and without any bass.
I hope this is different.
I cannot try your preset now, because I am not at home (without Stereo Tool).

General hint (to create better presets):
It is a known phenomenon that some presets sounds good with some desktop speakers (systems), though they are not good.
So the best strategy to avoid a one-trick pony preset is to use as many different speaker systems (of your family and/or friends) and headphones (!) and compare it with high quality CD productions as reference (! - difficult in these days of loudness war).


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:00 pm 

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Yes this IS changed from the original no-name preset. I fixed the bass issue, that was one of the problems I noticed as well. The speakers I have are $1,000 with subwoofers that hit down to 30hz and they are top quality speakers that reproduce sparkly highs and deep lows and perfect mids. Thanks for the advice. Give this new one a try though and see if you like it better especially since the bass issue is fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Baires' Radio 1.0
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:55 pm 
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I'm not sure if I love or hate this preset. I love the highs (I love highs anyway...), and when I switch from this one to some built-in user presets they don't sound good when coming from this one. Still, this one has some horrible artifacts (heavy pumping, and sometimes distortion).

I turned Loudness on to get rid of the distortion, but that didn't work! Then I lowered the Final Limiter volume slider to 50% and increased Loudness to 2.00 -> this SHOULD give the same end result but it clearly doesn't, distortion is gone. I've added this bug to my TODO list.

For now, to make his one sound better (get rid of distortion):
- Final Limiter volume at 50%
- Loudness at x2.00

But now I still don't know if I like this one. :shock: Will listen again later..


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