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 Post subject: Re: StudioOne HD
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:57 pm 
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Hi Bojcha, sorry to bother you again. I noticed that sometimes, in music, voices or other sounds push down other frequencies, expecially drums or other bass sounds (I don't know if it is the update or other setting Imight have messed up). Any suggestgion to make the sound more"stable"?
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Can i have example where you hear that? If you touched any settings, then i can't help.

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 Post subject: Re: StudioOne HD
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:17 am 

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I hear it in general in most processing when a loud/dense part comes in after a fairly light, open part. Bullet with Butterfly Wings by Smashing pumpkins does this. As the verse ends and they go into the heavy chorus, "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage", you get the sense that things get smooshed down. But I hear that with a lot of processing. It's a weird phenomenon.

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 Post subject: Re: StudioOne HD
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:39 am 
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Ah.. those are very hard to fix. Every processor will do this, more or less, due to agc pushes softer part up and loud down, all drums will get lower on louder part. It is possible with very hard processing, but then.. all new set of problems will be there.
Btw, one of best examples is. "Staind - Right here"

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 Post subject: Re: StudioOne HD
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:10 am 
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Yep.. spot on Bojcha.

The AGC logic does need improvement within ST. It will require abilities to count a combination of bass power beats over time, in conjunction with other factors such as overall loudness. I have not worked out the magic bullet here yet, but I know the Omnia 9 and 11 have nailed the AGC very nicely and will hold its self down in soft parts of songs that are very much inline with the original audio produces intent. How we algorithmise this for ST, the jury is out... Please do think about this. My expectation is it will require 5 or 6 factors to determine certain milestones for AGC actions...


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